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Old 05-08-2018, 01:00 AM   #1
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Default 2002 leisure travel vs 2002 pleasure way

What are yhe main differences. Hubby and i are looking to purchase a used motor home class b, 2000 to about 2004, wide body. Given up on our Rialta .
So what can you guys tell me about them, storage, bathrooms, etc.
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Old 05-08-2018, 06:02 AM   #2
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Full disclosure, I have a Roadtrek.... however, I have known people with both the Pleasure Way and Leisure Travel..... Leisure Travel as far as I know is the cream of the crop.....it just doesn't get much better than that...

I would say that when you are looking at a used vehicle, car or RV.. CONDITION is everything....I wouldn't get too hung up on the brand name here... look for the condition, service records, and who owned and how many owners were there....If you looking at buying one from the original owner or even the second owner.. that's much better than a vehicle that has passed through five or more different owners.....

And, if it's a diesel or gasoline engine.... miles are less important on the diesel... but, again, it's all about the service history....

We looked at the VW Rialta many years ago...we liked the concept of a vehicle that got pretty good mileage like that...if you really want this...go for the diesel... just my opinion..

If you can find a decent specimen great.... trouble is a lot of 2002s are not going to be in the best condition.. after 16 or 17 years... I would expect the choices to be pretty slim ...
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What are yhe main differences. Hubby and i are looking to purchase a used motor home class b, 2000 to about 2004, wide body. Given up on our Rialta .
So what can you guys tell me about them, storage, bathrooms, etc.
Thanks
Dianne
I agree with the first reply. Condition is more important. Both brands are good. We own a 2002 LT Freedom 2A. We previously owned a Great West van, 1991. Sold it two years ago, bought the L.T.
History and regular upkeep of all components is most important. Layout also is important. Both brands have several different layouts. Check these out on-line so you have an idea what might be best for you. Then start searching.
On Vancouver Island if a good used class B comes up for sale in the years that you are looking at, it sells fast. If you find one make sure that the van is thoroughly inspected for mechanical condition.
Good luck.
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Full disclosure, I have a Roadtrek.... however, I have known people with both the Pleasure Way and Leisure Travel..... Leisure Travel as far as I know is the cream of the crop.....it just doesn't get much better than that...

I would say that when you are looking at a used vehicle, car or RV.. CONDITION is everything....I wouldn't get too hung up on the brand name here... look for the condition, service records, and who owned and how many owners were there....If you looking at buying one from the original owner or even the second owner.. that's much better than a vehicle that has passed through five or more different owners.....

And, if it's a diesel or gasoline engine.... miles are less important on the diesel... but, again, it's all about the service history....

We looked at the VW Rialta many years ago...we liked the concept of a vehicle that got pretty good mileage like that...if you really want this...go for the diesel... just my opinion..

If you can find a decent specimen great.... trouble is a lot of 2002s are not going to be in the best condition.. after 16 or 17 years... I would expect the choices to be pretty slim ...
(I posted a detailed reply to this post, however, my respone did not appear. This is my second attempt at this reply.)

The following are my observations and opinions, for what they are worth:
Full disclosure: I own a PW and am considering another PW or a WB (my favorites). Possibly an RT.
I'm not sure that I would classify LTV as the cream of the crop. There are several brands, which are sold on a more limited basis, with features and the accompanying price well above LTV, PW & RT. I believe LTV, PW and RT materials, fit and finish are similar in quality. Depending upon the WB model, their quality would be similar. LTV tends to have some very unique floorplans which appeal to some people but not others. Some LTV's have significantly lower OCCC (a specification that is very important to me) due to their features and floorplans, those with a slideout, for example. RT, PW and WB tend to have much more conventional floor plans.
RT tends to introduce advanced systems and features before the other 3 mainstream brands. In the past, this has created some issues for the "early adaptors (E-trek for example). PW's and WB's tend to be more conventional in their approaches, although WB seems to be ahead of the pack with it's recent introduction of the Volta electrical system.
Due to the larger number of WB's that have been sold, prices for used WB's tend to be lower than for comparable models from the other 3 mainstream class B brands.
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Good Morning; on which coach is best we have owned more than one of each of these . if you are in the newer sprinter there I cant help you but if you are still with the dodge , ford truck models.. I would say the ford is the best for there are few parts for the old dodges and dodge has been very bad at keeping up old items.
It seems only one difference we noticed and that was head room. I cant remember which as we now have a platinum coachhouse (more room) but the cabinetry in the two coaches one sticks out into the center more than the other and caused me a few more knots on top. .
One thing we would insist on and found after several versions is to get the electric sofa bed it is by far the best system and most convient .
The bathrooms some expanded like the reilta and they can become a problem with the repairs should they brake.
Company support: Both companies were always more than happy to help us with any problem we had and the best way to deal with it.
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I agree when buying used, condition is major factor. Floor plan is also something to consider. My wife picked our PW over others mostly because she liked the location of the kitchen. It looks out on the passenger side, which is typically the side facing the campsite. You can have the best made unit on the road, but if you donít like how it is laid out, you will not be happy.
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[QUOTE=>>Given up on our Rialta<<[/QUOTE]

I'm curious as to why you've given up on your Rialta. I'm considering buying one at some point, and would like to know if there is a reason to avoid them.

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Full disclosure, I have a Roadtrek.... however, I have known people with both the Pleasure Way and Leisure Travel..... Leisure Travel as far as I know is the cream of the crop.....it just doesn't get much better than that...

I would say that when you are looking at a used vehicle, car or RV.. CONDITION is everything....I wouldn't get too hung up on the brand name here... look for the condition, service records, and who owned and how many owners were there....If you looking at buying one from the original owner or even the second owner.. that's much better than a vehicle that has passed through five or more different owners.....

And, if it's a diesel or gasoline engine.... miles are less important on the diesel... but, again, it's all about the service history....

We looked at the VW Rialta many years ago...we liked the concept of a vehicle that got pretty good mileage like that...if you really want this...go for the diesel... just my opinion..

If you can find a decent specimen great.... trouble is a lot of 2002s are not going to be in the best condition.. after 16 or 17 years... I would expect the choices to be pretty slim ...
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I agree when buying used, condition is major factor. Floor plan is also something to consider. My wife picked our PW over others mostly because she liked the location of the kitchen. It looks out on the passenger side, which is typically the side facing the campsite. You can have the best made unit on the road, but if you donít like how it is laid out, you will not be happy.
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I agree that condition can be everything when choosing an older class B. Unless you are very skilled and want to restore an RV, look for an RV that has been properly maintained. Have any RV you are considering for purchase inspected by a knowledgeable inspector. Consider hiring a certified inspector/inspection service. May be the best money that you spend in your search. Be sure to have the RV portion as well as the chassis portion inspected. Engine and transmission rebuilds can be very expensive and in some cases tend to be predictable, even for a well-maintained chassis, based upon the amount of the service life of the drive train that has already been consumed. Water leaks and the resulting damage can be difficult to diagnose and expensive to repair. Most of the normal wear and tear items cab be readily freshened or even replaced at moderate expense if you choose to do so. On the other hand, unless you are highly skilled, don't assume you can change the floorplan. Select a floorplan that you that you like and want.
Also, consider purchasing from a dealer with a reputation for customer service. Expect a full warranty for at least 30 days and up to 90 days from the date of purchase. I purchased my used PW from one such dealer and have been very happy with both the PW and the service from the dealer. I would not hesitate to recommend my dealer, including to someone who knows little about RV's.
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I've had a 2009 Pleasure-Way on the Ford V8 chassis for 2 years and have put on 10,000km (about 6200 miles). We just got back from a 10 day trip to Zion and Bryce parks and this van just works. We love it. We bought our van from CanaDream out of Calgary AB. It was formerly a rental and had quite a few kms (likely, mostly highway) but was in great, great shape. (I had been looking for the right one for about about 10 years). Like OldKansan said the kitchen is on the side looking out on your campground. And like Whitrock said, the electric sofa bed is perfect. We are not big so we can sleep across and don't need to "build" the bed to king-size. The stove is great as is the fridge. The bathroom (toilet, sink) works and we've taken showers in it, not like home, but it does the job. One thing I really like about our "older" model is that there is more storage room in the passenger side "boot". I can get my Weber portable bbq in there along with some firewood and a few other items, like bike helmets etc. I feel PW cheaped out on the newer Ford versions by not putting in this plastic boot. That storage location is now accessible only under the back seat and through the back doors of the van. I replaced all the pot light bulbs with LED to save on energy. I wish there was more room for another 12V coach battery but we've never needed to run the generator to top it up. Our van came with a solar panel and every evening we find the the battery fully charged.
Good luck in your search.
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I think I have something to add here. Several years ago, I bought a 1995 PW from a private seller. He claimed the PW was one owner; it had 78K miles on it. He was a business owner (owned computer repair shops and was currently an IT consultant) and seemed ok. I was a newbie and bought it on his word. It was not what it seemed. On the first trip, I ran into rain in GA and the windshield leaked like a sieve. When I got it fixed, the company said there was NO glue on the windshield and if I'd stopped suddenly, the windshield would have fallen out. That guy wasn't an original owner; his cousin owned the dealership and the fellow who traded it in WAS--and it had been sitting in someone's backyard for a few of those 25 years. Pretty sure--there was a bee's nest with dead bees in one of the taillights. It was clearly abused as a child; I made a commitment to the vehicle, and have put in about what I paid for it in terms of engine repairs, including transmission. The inside of the vehicle is old fashioned and I have discovered that at some point there was a leak that rotted some of the wood. It has bolsters that you put down to make a bed--which would be the same as your 2000-2 as well. After so much work on the engine, I'm keeping it. I am currently spending about 15K to bring the interior up to current standards. Condition is everything, but if I bought a newer PW, I'd still have a 10 year old vehicle for what I am paying/have paid. At least now, I know what I have had to do and what my future repairs are likely to be.
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