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Old 04-27-2017, 07:48 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if the Walmart in Halifax, Nova Scotia (Canada) alows overnight parking?

Or any other place in Halifax?

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Old 04-27-2017, 08:06 PM   #2
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We stayed at 220 Chain Lake Dr, Halifax, NS in June 2016. Lots of big box stores nearby and lots of RVs.
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Great! Thanks for the info.
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As far as I know, it's technically still not legal to park and sleep in a vehicle anywhere in Nova Scotia unless that vehicle is in a paid licensed facility. This is equally true if the property is private, such as a Walmart property. Nova Scotia inserts itself into the relationship between the private property owner and the vehicle owner.

Now, I've seen plenty of people doing it at the Sydney Walmart, even in Class As, apparently without hassle or interference, but as far as I know, the very controversial regulations banning Wallydocking and other forms of boondocking are still in place.

Just mentioning this to reduce your chances of a possible rude surprise. I don't know how rigorously those regs have been enforced in any part of the province at any time. There was plenty of offense taken about a decade ago or so when they came into law, and most of the anecdotal reports date from around that time vs. more recently. Here's one of the better-known early responses (PDF):

https://www.escapees.com/images/pdfs/rv-report.pdf
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When we were in Nova Scotia in 2016, we stayed at a Walmart in Truro that had signs that no overnight parking was allowed but we went inside and asked anyway. They said that the store did not have a problem and that it was a town bylaw. They indicated that they have not had issues so we stayed overnight. In Halifax, we stopped at one Walmart that was in town and part of a mall. Mall security said no and directed us to Chain Link Dr. There were several RVs there including several European travellers as I expect that they had just arrived from a container ship. We always ask for permission....generally after doing some shopping.
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Old 04-29-2017, 12:31 PM   #6
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Thanks for the info InterBlog and Cruisefx.

Yes, of course, asking permission first is always recommended... and shopping helps. Chain Lake Drive is a little farther from downtown than I would like to stay but we can certainly make it work. It's also nice to know that the Sydney Walmart doesn't have a problem with it as we might also go to Newfoundland this summer and would overnight in the area waiting for the morning ferry.

I didn't know that Nova Scotia had bylaws against overnighting in parking lots. I know that in the neighboring province of New Brunswick where I live, campground owners did try to stop the practice about 10-15 years ago, saying that Walmart was ''stealing'' clients from them. The government decided to stay out of it, arguing that it wasn't camping, it was only parking on the road between point A and point B and that Walmart had the right to ''invite'' anyone it wanted on it's property. There was a lot of noise about it in the news for a few months then it died down and we haven't heard much about it since.
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It might also be helpful as a potential defense to a ticket to be able to explain why the overnight parking was necessary. The intent behind the regulations was to force RVers into parks that desperately need the revenue during a very short tourist season in a province that is characterized by chronic economic depression. But the regulation failed to account for the access pressures, which are extreme at the height of the season, to the point where nobody is getting into many of those licensed facilities - they book up months in advance. This is anticipated to be especially true this coming summer on account of the Perfect Storm of tourist attractants:

(a) widely-publicized free Parks Canada passes this year and
(b) the fact that the Canuck buck is currently in the toilet - 1.37 exchange rate as of today!!

So if it were me and I were fixin' to park in a conspicuous area, I might put in a call to a nearby licensed RV park, verify that they have no openings, and get the phone-answerer's first name. That way if I were approached on a violation, I'd have the due diligence ready and I could respond, "I tried to book in facility x but I spoke to so-and-so and they are full, so I am stuck here instead." That's a common-sense defense that an enforcing officer could easily verify.

The issue is of interest to me because I'm planning an extended trip to NS during the "shoulder season" (autumn) when many camping facilities are already closed for the year. At that time of year, staying in licensed facilities is physically impossible, but again, the regulation as I understand it offers no relief for that scenario - it failed to account for that, too.
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That's a great idea InterBlog.

And agreed, Canada's 150th celebrations will make it harder to find camping this summer. I was hoping to go to one of the two National Parks in my area for the long weekend in May and tried to make reservations in early April but EVERYTHING was already booked! I didn't check further down the calendar but something tells me that unless one makes reservations early, all that will be left will be private campgrounds and as we all know, those can range from fantastic to downright scary.

And as far as the Canadian dollar goes... you're welcome.
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... in the neighboring province of New Brunswick where I live, campground owners did try to stop the practice about 10-15 years ago, saying that Walmart was ''stealing'' clients from them. The government decided to stay out of it, arguing that it wasn't camping, it was only parking on the road between point A and point B and that Walmart had the right to ''invite'' anyone it wanted on it's property. There was a lot of noise about it in the news for a few months then it died down and we haven't heard much about it since.
Thank goodness NB had the good sense to take that approach. NS's argument about "stealing" clients kinda falls flat when the facts are considered about just how much revenue they are actually booking. From the gov't's own website, remembering that this is a province of only 900,000 year-round residents, and also remembering that with the growth of this demand, there hasn't really been a commensurate growth in corresponding campground supply:

"Nova Scotia's tourism industry had its best year in history in 2016 and its third consecutive year of growth. In all, 2.2 million visitors came to the province last year, an increase of eight per cent, about 170,000 more visitors, over 2015.

Tourism revenue for 2016 was an estimated $2.6 billion, an increase of five per cent, $125 million, from the year before and a 28 per cent, $575 million, jump from 2010."
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I didn't know that Nova Scotia had bylaws against overnighting in parking lots.

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Pretty well everywhere in North America has a bylaw against overnighting in parking lots and public streets.

Whether they enforce it is another story.

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