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Old 02-25-2018, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default 2012 GWV Legend EX, All four house batteries dead!

In 2012 I purchased a GWV EX new, then sold to a friend in late 2013 with 20K miles on it.

I'm taking the GWV back in a trade arrangement - he is taking my 2013 Airstream 19 Intl. Signature plus a few bucks and I'm getting the GWV back with 35K miles on it.

He is a pilot and did not have much chance to use it BUT it has sat for the last 4 months NOT plugged into electric and no charge to the house batteries. He did put a trickle charger on the engine battery fortunately.


Exchange of "toys" will be this Wednesday BUT I am aware that all for of the house batteries are dead. His voltmeter showed 0.3 volts! Batteries are four Power Sonic PS-62000B units, 6 volts, 210 Amp. Hrs. Looks like $300 each to replace!

Now, as I remember the GWV, their switches to control charging, usage, storage can be a bit confusing. This rig has the solar package and I would expect that to have charged the rig in storage, but apparently not.

So, seeking advice:
1. Much chance the batteries, already 6 years old, can be brought back to life? IF so, best way/brand of charger/routine.

2. If not, just replace with the same Power Source units?

3. A way to start the generator when the house batteries are dead on the GWV?

4. He just check the Samlex Solar panel and can't get any reading off of it for incoming voltage BUT could that be because the all batteries are dead and the panel needs more current than the panel alone puts out to define it's status?

5. What else am I not smart enough to ask here?

PS: My passion is Landscape Photography and thus the van will be taking me to many campsites that do not have a power source. Thus, I'm not keen on cutting way back on the Amp Hours of dry camping time that the manufacturers original gear gives me.
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1. Much chance the batteries, already 6 years old, can be brought back to life? IF so, best way/brand of charger/routine.
Maybe. But, a 6-year-old battery that has been poorly treated has got to be near the end of its lifetime, so I'm not sure it is worth the effort.
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I wouldn't. I would just replace them with a pair of 12V Group 31s. I have had good luck with the NAPA 9833 (which is actually made by DEKA, apparently). Less than half the price.
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Long jumper cables from the chassis battery? You might be able to do it by forcing the isolation relay closed (or bridging the terminals).
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It came from GW with 420ah of batteries? That is a lot for a stock class B in 2012. As Avanti says, you could go with less capacity, if you don't need that much power, but I think I would go with just two of the 6 volt instead of four of them rather than using 12v versus going to 12v versions. Personally, I like Lifeline AGM batteries. Lifelines would be about the same $300 each.
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6 years old house battery?

It does not matter if he had plugged it in; it's time to change them anyway.

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It came from GW with 420ah of batteries? That is a lot for a stock class B in 2012.
I was wondering about that, too. Where did they even put four batteries? Can 2 6V batteries fit in each of the side battery compartments?
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They are 6v batteries.

Net AH should be 210.
He said there were four of them.
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I was wondering about that, too. Where did they even put four batteries? Can 2 6V batteries fit in each of the side battery compartments?
Correct, four in the van's floor contained in 4 separate compartments, two on the right and two on the left. Each is 210 Amp 6 volts with solar panels and a propane generator to support them.

Please remember, this is on the 3500 chassis and 26.5' long.
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It came from GW with 420ah of batteries? That is a lot for a stock class B in 2012. As Avanti says, you could go with less capacity, if you don't need that much power, but I think I would go with just two of the 6 volt instead of four of them rather than using 12v versus going to 12v versions. Personally, I like Lifeline AGM batteries. Lifelines would be about the same $300 each.
About a year ago I put Linelines into my Airstream 19 Bambi and have been happy with them. Just could have an issue with dimensions. Wish I could find a way to load up a photo of the rear compartment under the bed to show how they positioned them in the floor.
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Correct, four in the van's floor contained in 4 separate compartments, two on the right and two on the left. Each is 210 Amp 6 volts with solar panels and a propane generator to support them.

Please remember, this is on the 3500 chassis and 26.5' long.
Ah, right. I forgot they put four battery boxes in the EXT version.
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That is interesting, it looks like they have six volt batteries in a group 31 case. You might need to use 12v batteries if you change brand.
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