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Old 10-15-2017, 03:10 PM   #11
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Personally, I can see the Voltstart as useful to keep the batteries from going dead when you are away from the van extended periods because the huge parasitic losses of the Ecotrek will kill the batteries in less than two days. I don't see it as necessarily the best choice for keeping pets cool short term. There are off the shelf products available to start the vehicle engine based on the internal temperature of the vehicle. They are very commonly used in police canine vehicles for instance, and use the normal vehicle dash air to cool the interior back down and then shut off. By all accounts they are much more reliable than the Voltstart and don't suffer from the "death spiral" of dead batteries that can happen with the low output of overly hot engine generators. It makes no sense to me to run the vehicle engine, to run a big alternator, to run an inverter, to run the AC, when you have a much more efficient, and likely higher capacity, AC that can just be turned on with just the engine running.

Of course, with ANY of the AC options to protect pets you should have a fallback notification system unless you are willing to risk the pets to non 100% reliable, all the time, equipment.

If we had pets to protect (we don't), I would have enough batteries to run the coach AC for maybe 1/2 to 1 hour (more batteries would let you go longer if you wanted to), so we could do a quick trip into a store, restaurant, attraction, etc. For beyond that time, I would have a vehicle start, dash AC, temp triggered, setup.

Using a small battery system with the AC on, and counting on the Voltstart to keep things running, is likely not to happen for long as the death spiral will shut things down.

Leaving more modules on in a Roadtrek also doesn't help all that much for long term running either because of the huge parasitic losses. It doesn't matter how many modules you have on, they will be dead in less than two days.

Of course all of this is based on engine idling being OK wherever you are, and that you RV is perfectly sealed against carbon monoxide getting into the interior while the engine is idling (our Roadtrek would not have come close to passing the totally sealed test)
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:10 PM   #12
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Why do you think travato better? do they have the Auto Start feature?
I thought about the Travato but the zion layout fits my needs much better, especially having that middle isle, and the two single beds, and the ability to strap down things like bikes to the drawers. I also love the pullout pantry. I think every RV should have that lol.
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:16 PM   #13
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. There are off the shelf products available to start the vehicle engine based on the internal temperature of the vehicle. They are very commonly used in police canine vehicles for instance, and use the normal vehicle dash air to cool the interior back down and then shut off. By all accounts they are much more reliable than the Voltstart and don't suffer from the "death spiral" of dead batteries that can happen with the low output of overly hot engine generators. It makes no sense to me to run the vehicle engine, to run a big alternator, to run an inverter, to run the AC, when you have a much more efficient, and likely higher capacity, AC that can just be turned on with just the engine running.

Of course, with ANY of the AC options to protect pets you should have a fallback notification system unless you are willing to risk the pets to non 100% reliable, all the time, equipment.

If we had pets to protect (we don't), I would have enough batteries to run the coach AC for maybe 1/2 to 1 hour (more batteries would let you go longer if you wanted to), so we could do a quick trip into a store, restaurant, attraction, etc. For beyond that time, I would have a vehicle start, dash AC, temp triggered, setup.




Of course all of this is based on engine idling being OK wherever you are, and that you RV is perfectly sealed against carbon monoxide getting into the interior while the engine is idling (our Roadtrek would not have come close to passing the totally sealed test)
Awesome Idea. I will check into this option. You have idea of where to search? or search term?
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:51 PM   #14
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Why do you think travato better? do they have the Auto Start feature?

Sigh... Bottomline, do you want to trust your pet's life to an untrustworthy technology?

I would ask: does it have a 100% uptime guarantee?
If not, what percentage risk is acceptable?
Is 99% acceptable to you?

What would happen to your pet if the auto-start did not start as expected?

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Old 10-16-2017, 06:14 PM   #15
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LOL. The endless procession of newbs willing to shell out $20k+ and deal with endless reliability problems and frustrations with inept dealers all for this idea that pets need air conditioning that can only be provided via batteries. How about the idea of a low tech RV, a ventilator, and traveling with the weather instead of against it?
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