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Old 04-30-2018, 10:09 PM   #21
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I assume this is the “relief” valve flow diagram by Roadtrek. Truma’s manual clearly shows how a pressure relief valve should be installed so why would they approve a different and unsafe installation.
A first boom-boom malfunction and Roadtrek could be in a deep trouble and will not be able to say we didn’t know.
BTW: this is a similar photo that depicts Aktiv water flow from input (1) to cold water input to boiler (10a). The boiler explosion hazard is cause by the brass over-pressure valve (near 7b) and yellow drain valve (near 7a) being isolated from the boiler (after 10a) when the owner puts the bypass valve (near 9) in bypass, a common event. In the bypass position the two safety valves are diverted from the boiler and the boiler is sealed.
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:26 PM   #22
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BTW: this is a similar photo that depicts Aktiv water flow from input (1) to cold water input to boiler (10a). The boiler explosion hazard is cause by the brass over-pressure valve (near 7b) and yellow drain valve (near 7a) being isolated from the boiler (after 10a) when the owner puts the bypass valve (near 9) in bypass, a common event. In the bypass position the two safety valves are diverted from the boiler and the boiler is sealed.

did he/roadtrek actually sue you? I assume the discovery process would force them to prove it.
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:35 PM   #23
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We need to be squeaky clean on facts since we don't what Hymer to shutdown the safety discussion on a technicality. The Hymer Aktiv's plumbing still violates safety code. Our web posting also countered Mr. Hammill's repeated assertions that there is an internal pressure sensor. We withdrew mention of the pressure sensor from the website until we receive confirmation from Truma.

We also added some good points made in this forum. Thanks

https://sites.google.com/view/shoot-...ect?authuser=6
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Old 05-01-2018, 04:16 AM   #24
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did he/roadtrek actually sue you? I assume the discovery process would force them to prove it.
Did I say sue? I don't know what legal action they might take. Despite multiple written requests, Erwin Hymer Group is clearly not stopping him from attacking me directly and on the public Internet for everyone that knows me.
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:05 PM   #25
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Jim Hammill posted this on the Roadtreking Facebook group...

Hello Folks,

I find it difficult to make posts like these, but there is a significant issue being caused by a man on another site named Mr Sam Carswell.

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Erwin Hymer Group of North America

There were 100 people who were mildly interested in this.
Now there are 100,000 people who are paying serious attention to this.

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Old 05-04-2018, 11:16 PM   #26
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There were 100 people who were mildly interested in this.
Now there are 100,000 people who are paying serious attention to this.

Maybe he is scared. Primitive man has three responses: fight, flight and Dwight
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Old 05-05-2018, 03:17 AM   #27
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There were 100 people who were mildly interested in this.
Now there are 100,000 people who are paying serious attention to this.

I would accept he went from a few hundred to more than 17,000 (the number of members in the group he posted to) but 100,000 ???
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Old 05-05-2018, 05:30 AM   #28
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Cool Get A Life!!!!

I believe Jim Hammill is a blowhard and is working past his paygrade. But but give me a break there is a lot more to RVing than slagging your rig. Get a Life!!
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Old 05-09-2018, 04:38 AM   #29
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Why is he going into all that song and dance?

All he has to do is to produce a document from Truma,
or a statement from Truma,
to the effect that the unit is internally pressure and temperature protected.

This started as a simple inquiry from a customer. Why is he withholding the information? What is he afraid of?


Excellent point. The song and dance was Mr. Hammill's way of dodging the fact that some of his RVs aren't National Fire Protection Association 1192 compliant as stated on the RVIA sticker. The attached parody of RVIA's sticker may be Hymer's new safety standard. The "shoot-the-messenger" website is off-line and undergoing a major rewrite. It will be back in time for discovery in Mr. Hammill's promised legal action against Mr. Carswell. Yes, I'm Mr. Carswell and I'm angry that EHG let Mr. Hammill put my name on the open Internet in association with Hymer's violations.
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Old 05-10-2018, 04:36 PM   #30
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There are now traceable to NFPA safety code violations so the question of wire gauges and other issues are proven to be in out of compliance. Therefore this thread is over. Please see the new thread titled:
"Legal Action: Hymer NA Aktiv not NFPA 1192 compliant"
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