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Old 03-01-2019, 01:59 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by markopolo View Post
My guess is that the Class B 2008 PW Excel would handle a bit better than the Class C 2006 Itasca Navion J. The Excel would probably be lighter, less tall and more aerodynamic. Most Excels I've seen have adjustable air bags to assist the rear suspension. I think 2008 was a changeover year for that Ford van. The front on an actual 2008 would look quite different than a 2007. I just mention this because RV's can have a chassis that is a year older than the motorhome part.

Nothing beats getting out there and test driving a few Class B's and Class C's though.
The Ford-based PW Excels were known for handling problems. There is even a Yahoo forum that deals with this issue. It is my understanding that the handling on the later Excels, I believe on 2010 Ford chassis and later, was improved. The other problem with the Ford-based Excels is limited OCCC, some under 1,300 lbs. The PW Lexor's and RT 190's have much higher OCCC, with some approaching 2,000 lb.

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Old 03-01-2019, 09:15 AM   #12
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I’ve always heard that the longer the wheel base the better the ride. All Bs will be longer than your car so I would think other factors such a weight, suspension, weight distribution would be more important factors. Our B is built on the shortest Sprinter wheelbase & riding, front or back, I have no complaints with the ride.

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Old 03-02-2019, 08:55 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by avanti View Post
How do you "widen" a Class B? This would require extensive structural work. I don't think this has ever been attempted. If it is a cutaway with a fiberglass body, it is a Class C.

Also, what makes you think that the presence or absence of an overhead bed has anything to do with the definition of a Class C? It does not.
If a widened body (fiberglass or otherwise) is put on a ProMaster chassis or Sprinter chassis… unless it is 8’ to 8.5’ wide with an overhead cab/bunk (or storage cabinets, but usually a bunk), it is indeed a Class B or Class B+. It would not be a class C. For example, the Winnebago Trend is built off of the ProMaster chassis with a widened body and a smaller over cab cabinet storage area. But it is still a class B+, not a Class C. The same goes for a unit like the Leisure Travel Vans. They also have custom-made widened fiberglass bodies attached to Sprinter or Transit chassis. They are also classified as a B+ vans, not C Class.
A C Class RV is kind of like an A Class in dimensions, but are built on a van chassis (think Chevy Express or Ford E350) and have an overcab bunk (or as mentioned before, storage cabinets).
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:34 PM   #14
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Winnebago has never used B+ with the marketing of their units as far as I know. That's another thing I like about them.

Take a look:

RVIA shipment stats and SSI retail registration stats don't use B+ or Super C etc. It Class A, B, & C for the monthly reports on motorhome production and sales.

Class C's are built on a cutaway chassis, not a van chassis.

Cutaway chassis:
cutaway chassis.png

Van chassis - enclosed cab/body (all in one)
Cab chassis - enclosed cab
Cutaway chassis - open cab

Newer unibody body vans don't allow for much modification. If you go back 15 years ago and more prior to the Sprinter vans a being converted into Class B's then it was more common to see fiberglass used to make the vans bigger. The older vans were body on frame so those modifications were permitted. They were widened and had exterior storage compartments etc. Overcab bunks weren't uncommon.

Islander Class B - widened rear, bunk over cab:

Islander Class B.jpg

For forum related stuff it's likely more about shared experiences and getting other members help. If you have a small Class C with limited storage then you'll buy the same gear as B van users. You'll also visit the same places.

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