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Old 07-11-2015, 02:08 PM   #1
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I got a notice about the free upgrade to Windows 10 available later this month. Here are two articles that maybe explain how it can be "free".

'Free' Windows 10 Now Looks A Terrible Deal - Forbes

Windows 10 Upgrades Cannot Be Stopped - Forbes

I guess we all know it can't be free forever. Just think about all the updates they have to keep releasing. People don't work for free.

I would like to know what cost I should expect annually going forward after the initial grace period though.
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I think in two years you will probably be shopping for a new PC anyway so who cares. It'll come with Windows 12.
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:25 PM   #3
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MS said Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows. We have three computers that are eligible for the "free" upgrade.

We'll have a year to do the upgrade and lots can happen in a year.

I know my wife will not miss 8.1
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MS said Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows. ...
Does Windows 10.9.35.78.3.539 still count as Win 10?
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:54 PM   #5
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Good one!
Yes.
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Windows is free because that is the new model for operating systems. Microsoft's bread and butter was Windows software which they could charge for. But then Apple went to free upgrades with OS X, Google has jumped in with Chrome and Linux has always been hanging around. Microsoft was starting to lose ground with all that pressure. They had no choice.

I am curious how Microsoft can say Windows 10 is the last unless they are going to try to introduce a new total departure OS. They have pretty much been shedding most of their businesses including just taking a big write off of Nokia and phones. They are shrinking the company back down to software and services.
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Don't cry for Microsoft. They're still making billions.

I only use Windows on my work PC because they force me too - IT locks it down and does the maintenance, so I just use it like a toaster. Otherwise I'm Mac all the way - the laptops, ipads and phones all nicely work together and basically take care of themselves.
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wait awhile before you upgrade to windoze 10 - some software like Adobe Lightroom / Photoshop or other software might have some glitches working with windoze 10 - I think that this new OS will eventually be good for MSFT and the general public- time will tell....
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yes, good idea.
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The automatic sharing of your WiFi connection with your contacts is something that I'll disable. Google "Wi-Fi Sense" for more info.

I think I'll have to disable it for every Windows 10 device I put on my network.

This article http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turn-o...213003839.html on Yahoo offers a quick how-to:

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On Windows 10 itself, you want to go to Settings, then Network & Internet, then Wi-Fi, then Manage Wi-Fi Settings. Turn off everything under the Wi-Fi Sense heading and have it forget the networks you share.
In addition you can "opt out" your wireless network by including "_optout" in the network name (also known as the SSID). More info on that: https://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/h...of-wi-fi-sense

Google uses a similar opt out method that lets you opt out of having your wireless access point included in the Google Location Server. More info on that here: Official Google Blog: Greater choice for wireless access point owners

Microsoft indicates that the _optout needs to be included in the network name and Google indicates that your network name needs to end with _nomap.

The big question is will this network name: mynetwork_optout_nomap allow you to opt out of both Microsoft and Google's programs or whatever they're referred to as.

I think these really should be opt ins instead of opt outs.
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I installed and tried Windows 10 but am about to remove it completely from my computer. Micro$$$ has gone out of their way to disable any control over the updates. Windows is now set up to auto update and you have no other option. I live in the country and have quite limited Internet. In the past, I had all PC's set up to check for updates, tell me when there are some but let me decide what to do. This way, if the updates are large, we go to the local library and use their Internet. With Windows 10 we don't have that option. On top of that, I have read Micro$$$ will be trying new software on personal PC's through this auto update and you will have no idea they installed it. If it tests out, they will release it to commercial or Business Windows. I guess this is one way they are paying for this.

There are several apps and programs I have tried to remove but cannot. OneDrive is one example. This is one of those Cloud storage things where you save files on the Internet instead of your PC. From what I have read, any Office files default to save to this OneDrive. It apparently can also take all your pictures and personal files and copy them into the OneDrive. I'm sorry, but I want to make the decision on rather my stuff goes on the Internet or not and I don't want this at all. This app is now embedded into Windows and the file explorer so it cannot be removed.

I was starting to get use to Windows 10 and was willing to give it a try but not now. I will be doing a factory restore on my PC but I don't know what I can do for my daughter's laptop. Her computer updated and she has no idea how or why. I don't want to factory restore her's if I can help it.
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