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Old 03-12-2011, 10:08 AM   #11
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A long day....? well, it takes me two long days from Montana to Parker, AZ. I still think a cheap base in the SW is the way to go. But it's the fixed costs- tax and maintenance-- that scare me, because they are not really fixed, are they? Boondocking looks better all the time.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:29 PM   #12
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More boondocking in the future is my goal and how I am working to set up our B. I've never been fond of staying in private campgrounds especially the sardine packing ones for the big rigs.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:09 AM   #13
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A long day....? well, it takes me two long days from Montana to Parker, AZ. I still think a cheap base in the SW is the way to go. But it's the fixed costs- tax and maintenance-- that scare me, because they are not really fixed, are they? Boondocking looks better all the time.
It's always been our fave - boondocking. Can't beat the price.
What scares me, is establishing the ground rules for a "commune", if we were to share a
place in the SW with some other people.
1) You have to like your partners. I mean REALLY LIKE THEM! So there's got to be some meet
and greets to see if it would work.
2) the place would have to be bought cash up front, so only monthly/annual expenses would be
involved going forward.
2) How do you schedule your time there? When it's cold up here, everyone wants to go south at the same time.
3) What if it doesn't work out? What is the non-acrimonious exit strategy?
4) some sort of contract with penalties for non-compliance with pre-established rules might be a good idea.
Anything else I've forgotten?
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:00 AM   #14
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Yah.... I don't know if any commune has ever worked, except the religious ones. Let's don't go there.
Well, maybe a boondocking commune first, to see who gets along with who. I think there are lots of groups of RVers who travel like that-- 3-5 of them always staying together-- seems a good idea in a boondock situation. That way someone is probably always around.
I am in the SW in October/November (when I'm not in Mexico, or off on a bike trip) and Jan to April ( ditto)

My attraction to a "permanent" place is a garage for my bike. A regular storage garage in the part of AZ I stay is $150. a month.
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Bikes are an inexpensive way to travel, until the hidden costs start popping up. Like storage.
The effects of bad weather on usage. $150/month? If that's the main issue, maybe your friends
down that way could help you out somehow and find a storage solution to make it a bit more
affordable? I guess a Goldwing won't fit where a Honda 50/90 will? Remember them? Vespas on steroids.

Maybe the commune issue is better addressed by one person buying, and several other approved "friends"
renting space to help pay the monthly/annual bills. But again, there are many points of failure for that
kind of setup too, I guess.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:54 PM   #16
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I have been hauling my bike(s) back and forth. I have places I can leave a bike. I have a friend who is in Parker Oct---April. My only problem with the Parker area is it's so far to an airport. 3.5 hrs one way. So, near Phoenix or Palm Springs would be better. ( shuttles from Palm Springs to LAX)
Well one of these days some of us B people will meet up down south and lots to talk about.
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Aren't you basically discussing a Time Share concept? If you want that there are plenty of opportunities and lots of people that would like to unload one to you at a very cheap price.
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Old 03-13-2011, 10:23 PM   #18
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Essentially yes. However we're trying to cut out the middle man (aka the property owner), who is
normally the only one who benefits from a standard time share setup, by becoming the middle
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:34 PM   #19
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Time share? Yuck, no. And now there's "fractional ownership".
I think someone above used the word "commune", also somewhat tainted.... Co-operative?
Shared ownership- needs a common bond. Recently met a guy who said he and 3 friends bought some acres near Bouse to set up their RV spots, where they share their off- roading hobby. Near where I live in Montana a group of firefighters from San Diego bought a lakefront RV Park about 10 years ago for about $200,000. 10 spaces at 20K each. That property is probably worth more than a million now.
I keep saying if I ever sold my property in MT, I'd never buy again-- the tax and maintenance headaches.....
Yet I keep looking at Desert Hot Springs...........
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Desert Hot Springs?
Sounds nice.
How much?
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