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Old 02-12-2017, 01:37 PM   #1
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My wife and I are actively searching for our first RV
Due to our HOA rules it will have to be a class B which will be used for travel and a second car
I have read some of the posts regarding gas versions vs diesel and must say that we share similar issues
Namely that at a little over 6 ft I do not fit comfortably in the Pro Master chassis which means I have been directing my attention towards the Sprinters. However my wife is concerned with the length which is usually around 24ft
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I have been directing my attention towards the Sprinters. However my wife is concerned with the length which is usually around 24ft
Sprinter chassis are available in two wheelbases and three different lengths. The 24' ones are the longest of the three, but you can find rigs built on any of them. Ours is 22.7, which is perfect for us. It is true that the 24' models tend to have longer beds, but there are exceptions.
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at a little over 6 ft I do not fit comfortably in the Pro Master chassis which means I have been directing my attention towards the Sprinters.
The Promaster comfort grows on you. At first I thought (like others) it needed a tilt wheel (The wheel does go in and out) and a left side arm rest. In addition it feels like you are stepping down on the brakes rather than pushing forward.

I'm 6'2" and now that I have driven it a while I really like it. Drives better than the wife's Buick Enclave. Put some weight in it and you get a nice ride.

It does takes some getting used to.
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I have a Chev based pleasure-way lexor
at 6'1"+, I move around well in running shoes, not in heeled boots...
when shopping watch youtube videos of sales guys ( often large) and how well they manage to move around inside a van.
generally sideways sleepers will be too short for you, so you need a fore/aft sleeper.
how big a bed do you need-? we got the largest we could find ( 72W, 72L on pass side, 75 long on drivers side)...I have been surprised by other couples who were ok with 56" wide beds...
generally the more space devoted to a head/wet bath, the less space available for every other aspect of life in the van- I see a common floor plan trade off between bad size and bath...determine your priority

I have rented a Promaster variant in Europe- the roof height was totally fine for me.



although some manufacturers tout these as a "second car", you'd be nuts ( I think) to use a $100k RV for a "car" it weighs near 9000 pounds.
every start from a stop requires alot of energy slow to get to speed, every stop requires hard use of the brakes- extra following distance. every bump and shake and turn takes an incremental toll on the chassis and the cabinetry.

these things are best used for highway cruising between destinations.

you could about cover the cost of a smaller yaris/spark looking thing for the cost of fixing a worn out RV, brakes and suspension fixes are expensive, a tranny and motor will last much longer with steady even use- and fuel costs too. ride quailty, the suspension is built to kepe the heavy weight balanced on all 4 wheels, smooooth ride is secondary. oh and tires- my chev tires are about $200, some other models have tires which are much more expensive, and require a specialized shop to change them.

imagine using a uhaul as a 2nd car...

that's my 2

HOA- I live in AZ where HOAS rule some areas ( and that is why my previous owner had to fire sale his RV- he was allowed the park the RV at his home 3 days per year and had to apply in advance).

check very very carefully- a van/ conversion van are one thing , but a vehicle titled as a "rv" may be different.
You can try to sneak it in but the penalty if caught can be huge ( AZ allows HOA's right of foreclosure).
Optimal would be a letter from the HOA or HOA mgmt company ( who get a cut of fines levied!) spelling out the conditions under which your RV is allowed.



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We use our Promaster b as a second car mainly for shopping. I drives like a minivan and it has a tight turning radius, easy to park since its under 20', average parking space is 18' or less. Measure the parking spot you plan to park it before deciding on which length and add couple of feet. You may notice the Sprinters and transits are generally taller and longer.
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Read your HOA rules carefully and also get a feel for how they actually enforce them, because it can be selective. If I take my HOA rules literally, I'm not allowed to park my Class B overnight in my driveway. But it's actually legal for me to park it on the street in front of my house overnight (because the streets are not private - they are city property and the city defaults to state rules which only say that if the vehicle is current on registration, legal to drive, and moved at least once every 24 hours, it can be parked at the curb). The HOA knows darned well that it infuriates local residents if people park large vehicles in the public right of way - so if they hammer me for my driveway parking and I move it to the street, the HOA will get push-back from other people. So we do leave it in our driveway overnight while we're working on it, but not every night. We do rent an off-site garage as well, which is where it lives most of the time. I get to push the envelope, but not too far, in other words.
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I have a Chev based pleasure-way lexor
at 6'1"+, I move around well in running shoes, not in heeled boots...
when shopping watch youtube videos of sales guys ( often large) and how well they manage to move around inside a van.
generally sideways sleepers will be too short for you, so you need a fore/aft sleeper.
how big a bed do you need-? we got the largest we could find ( 72W, 72L on pass side, 75 long on drivers side)...I have been surprised by other couples who were ok with 56" wide beds...
generally the more space devoted to a head/wet bath, the less space available for every other aspect of life in the van- I see a common floor plan trade off between bad size and bath...determine your priority

I have rented a Promaster variant in Europe- the roof height was totally fine for me.



although some manufacturers tout these as a "second car", you'd be nuts ( I think) to use a $100k RV for a "car" it weighs near 9000 pounds.
every start from a stop requires alot of energy slow to get to speed, every stop requires hard use of the brakes- extra following distance. every bump and shake and turn takes an incremental toll on the chassis and the cabinetry.

these things are best used for highway cruising between destinations.

you could about cover the cost of a smaller yaris/spark looking thing for the cost of fixing a worn out RV, brakes and suspension fixes are expensive, a tranny and motor will last much longer with steady even use- and fuel costs too. ride quailty, the suspension is built to kepe the heavy weight balanced on all 4 wheels, smooooth ride is secondary. oh and tires- my chev tires are about $200, some other models have tires which are much more expensive, and require a specialized shop to change them.

imagine using a uhaul as a 2nd car...

that's my 2

HOA- I live in AZ where HOAS rule some areas ( and that is why my previous owner had to fire sale his RV- he was allowed the park the RV at his home 3 days per year and had to apply in advance).

check very very carefully- a van/ conversion van are one thing , but a vehicle titled as a "rv" may be different.
You can try to sneak it in but the penalty if caught can be huge ( AZ allows HOA's right of foreclosure).
Optimal would be a letter from the HOA or HOA mgmt company ( who get a cut of fines levied!) spelling out the conditions under which your RV is allowed.



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Thanks Mike but I didn't just ask my neighbor I called the HOA for their guidelines
As far as just using just for long trips I think I would have to use it more often then that
We commonly take day trips to different parts of the state and would enjoy the comforts of a B
Thanks for your comments
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Sprinter chassis are available in two wheelbases and three different lengths. The 24' ones are the longest of the three, but you can find rigs built on any of them. Ours is 22.7, which is perfect for us. It is true that the 24' models tend to have longer beds, but there are exceptions.
May I ask which Manufacturer/Model your referring to?
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We use our Promaster b as a second car mainly for shopping. I drives like a minivan and it has a tight turning radius, easy to park since its under 20', average parking space is 18' or less. Measure the parking spot you plan to park it before deciding on which length and add couple of feet. You may notice the Sprinters and transits are generally taller and longer.
I like the Pro Master but it just doesn't feel all that comfortable
At least not where I would want to drive long distances in
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May I ask which Manufacturer/Model your referring to?
Ours is a 2014 Great West Vans Legend SE. Sadly GWV is now out of business, though.
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