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Old 06-29-2016, 02:34 AM   #211
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Len and TAMMY at RT got me the 7/12/16 service appt but I haven't been really able to use my Zion since it was dropped off on 6/4/2016 and it was supposed to act as my second car.
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Hi folks, I'm Janie, originally from New Brunswick, living in Ontario. I have no RV experience, but have done my due diligence on research, and was about to pay cash for a 2001 Pleasureway last night. Here I sit, in a B&B, waiting for the dealer's counter offer. They tell me they're selling on behalf of their buddy, the owner-dealer ("He won't budge!"). The buddy bought it at an Alberta auction, no doubt with stars in his eyes. He planned to get it to Newfoundland and sell it for a tidy profit there, but seems it's been sitting for months here in this little town. Somewhere along the line there was a fire in this motorhome's engine. The responses are all innocence and oblivion as to the cause of the fire and extent of damage. My new-found local mechanic, and my own PPI, say the PW checks out fine otherwise, but cautions me to come in low, partly because of the melted cowl and damaged hood I'll need to address, but mainly because of the unknowns, rendered by rust and high heat, that could come back to bite me. Any other vehicle, you'd walk away, right? I love Class B's, but the desire for one puts stars in my eyes too. It makes people crazy.
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Hi folks, I'm Janie, originally from New Brunswick, living in Ontario. I have no RV experience, but have done my due diligence on research, and was about to pay cash for a 2001 Pleasureway last night. Here I sit, in a B&B, waiting for the dealer's counter offer. They tell me they're selling on behalf of their buddy, the owner-dealer ("He won't budge!"). The buddy bought it at an Alberta auction, no doubt with stars in his eyes. He planned to get it to Newfoundland and sell it for a tidy profit there, but seems it's been sitting for months here in this little town. Somewhere along the line there was a fire in this motorhome's engine. The responses are all innocence and oblivion as to the cause of the fire and extent of damage. My new-found local mechanic, and my own PPI, say the PW checks out fine otherwise, but cautions me to come in low, partly because of the melted cowl and damaged hood I'll need to address, but mainly because of the unknowns, rendered by rust and high heat, that could come back to bite me. Any other vehicle, you'd walk away, right? I love Class B's, but the desire for one puts stars in my eyes too. It makes people crazy.
Fire in the engine? I won't touch it.
Listen to your inner voice.
Lot's of fish in the ocean.
That's just me. YMMV
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Hi folks, I'm Janie, originally from New Brunswick, living in Ontario. I have no RV experience, but have done my due diligence on research, and was about to pay cash for a 2001 Pleasureway last night. Here I sit, in a B&B, waiting for the dealer's counter offer. They tell me they're selling on behalf of their buddy, the owner-dealer ("He won't budge!"). The buddy bought it at an Alberta auction, no doubt with stars in his eyes. He planned to get it to Newfoundland and sell it for a tidy profit there, but seems it's been sitting for months here in this little town. Somewhere along the line there was a fire in this motorhome's engine. The responses are all innocence and oblivion as to the cause of the fire and extent of damage. My new-found local mechanic, and my own PPI, say the PW checks out fine otherwise, but cautions me to come in low, partly because of the melted cowl and damaged hood I'll need to address, but mainly because of the unknowns, rendered by rust and high heat, that could come back to bite me. Any other vehicle, you'd walk away, right? I love Class B's, but the desire for one puts stars in my eyes too. It makes people crazy.
Wow. Don't know what to say. Brand new class B problematic enough, an older unit could have lots of issues. How old is the propane tank, regulators, gas lines have they been replaced during the life of the unit? AC, Furance, carbon monoxide detectors, etc.
Roof leaks? How old are tires, could have good thread but bad dry rot and blowout risk.
Just some questions about general over all safety. Drive it and see if it floats.
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It is most likely for sale as is, unrepaired, because it will be cost prohibitive to fix it, and the seller knows it.

Engine fires can cause a whole lot of hidden damage from the heat, especially in a van where almost all the wiring is right around the engine, as is the dash. Anyplace you see melted plastic, you could also have melted insulation on the wiring which could show up now, or later. You also don't know if the wires shorted during the fire and melted other wiring outside the fire area.

Think about how many hands this has gone through. Probably and owner, a dealer who got it from the owner or insurance company, the auction, the current owner, another dealer on consignment. Very tough to get any information. Did the furnish a Carfax? Clean title?

Unless it was very, very, cheap and I was a hard core DIY mechanic who could put in everything from the seats forward with used parts, myself, I would run, not walk, from this unit, based on the discription.
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...was about to pay cash for a 2001 Pleasureway last night..... ("He won't budge!"). .... seems it's been sitting for months here in this little town. Somewhere along the line there was a fire in this motorhome's engine..... unknowns, rendered by rust and high heat, that could come back to bite me. Any other vehicle, you'd walk away, right? I love Class B's, but the desire for one puts stars in my eyes too. It makes people crazy.
It's really tough when you find the one you want but something, price, troubles, doubt, whatever, just isn't right...
I passed on several units I thought were "once in a lifetime deals", and in hindsight am SO glad I skipped them and waited for EXACTLY what I wanted..

Only you can decide if it is the unit for you, but be assured, your "perfect" rig is out there.. somewhere...
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Hi. I retired last year, but Susan is still working. We live in Nebraska; anyone who lives in the Great Plains knows how windy it is here! We don't have an RV, yet- but I'm trying to learn as much as I can before we take the plunge. Some of the Class B's (the newer ones, in particular), seem taller than they are wide. Isn't it hard to drive these in 30 to 40 mph wind? If anyone has experience with this, please shed some light. At this point, I'm leaning toward one of the older, wider models. Many thanks!
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In 2008 I drove my 2008 Roadtrek Agile that was built on a Freightliner Chasis Deisel through a horrible wind storm from Colorado Springs to Lamar Colorado. Big rigs and other vehicles had pulled off the road because the wind was brutal, but I just kept trucking on down the road. A few years later I drove a Roadtrek 190 2012 on a Chevorlet Chasis -- it was a little wider and a little shorter but it didn't handle the wind like the Mercedes Agile Freight Liner. Some RV's "float" on the road when there's hardly any wind -- experienced that on a B+ Ford Chasis. Hope this helps.
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Have a 2014 ERA which is the 3500 series. Wife and I both drove through some very strong winds in Wyoming. Interstate was not closed. We both felt pretty comfortable. Reduced speed 10 mph and thought unit handled wind gust pretty good with limited sway. FWIW
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Thank you for your reply. If there were lots of other affordable used B's, I would walk. To clarify -- The owner will certify before selling, so all safety issues will supposedly be addressed. I've done a thorough PPI as best I could, and my mechanic, who has worked on B's, has checked it over. Not sure about hoses etc. that may need replacing, but the appliances, lights, windows, etc. are all working. 2 new batteries, no generator ( but oddly, has an Onan panel) No creaks or rattles and feels like a good drive. One owner, no liens or accidents on the car fax report. With taxes inc. the cost would be $26,000 CDN. Today is the day I decide. Would you go for it if you were me?
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