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Old 07-29-2017, 02:19 PM   #331
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Oh well. Hurry up and wait... Perhaps soon it will get fixed and then I'll give them the cash and drive it off the lot.
It was very astute of you to test before paying. It remains their problem to get it satisfactorily repaired quickly.

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I would have hired Dan Neeley to do the pre-acceptance for me.
You could have cut your hotel bills in half and have a private tutor for free.

Hindsights.
Great idea. Dan Neeley knows how to fix them also so he may yet be called in.
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:52 PM   #332
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You're saying that with the lithiums turned on you can shut off the main disconnect switch on the control panel and still charge the lithiums via the alternator shoreside charger or solar controllerr?
Yes, all chargers are connected on the battery side of the disconnect relay...
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They most certainly can void warranty if you tamper with things. Even if you could prevail in court, they can stonewall you until you give up or are bankrupted.
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They most certainly can void warranty if you tamper with things.
No, they can't. Google "Magnuson Moss".

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Even if you could prevail in court, they can stonewall you until you give up or are bankrupted.
No, they can't. In anticipation of this problem, MM allows attorney fees to be included in the judgement. This means that there is an army of spec lawyers who will represent you without cost or risk if you have any kind of a case. In this regard, it is similar to most lemon laws (but better, since this is a federal statute).

In practice, they will attempt to bully and stonewall you right up until they get a letter from a lawyer. Then they will typically settle. MM is one of the most consumer-friendly laws in existence. It works very well.

Respectfully, all this information is readily available on the Internet. Please do your homework before repeatedly posting incorrect claims.
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I'm familiar with it. It covers aftermarket mods.

You can't tinker with software settings and other non-maintenance service items.

GM just went thru with this on people monkeying with their corvettes. They got tired of paying for blown engines. So if tampering is detected, they blacklist you in their dealer system.

They can stonewall you all they like. Winning a case is really expensive and they know it.

If they tell you they'll void you if you change the BMS software, they mean it. You really think you are going to sue over a $5,000 part? Who's going to take that case unless they get paid by the hour. My lawyer is around $500 an hour for office, double that for court.
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Who said anything about changing BMS software. I had mentioned carrying and emergency voltage regulator and getting approved by Roadtrek and Nations, which can't see reasonably being a modification of design if they approved it. Besides, they wouldn't know it was used anyway, as it changes nothing in the wiring or function except going to fixed voltage.
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Gosh! Wingedryno has taken official delivery yet and we are talking about warranties and correcting things afterwards.
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I'm familiar with it.
Evidently not.

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It covers aftermarket mods.
It covers any attempt to void a manufacturer's warranty due to post-sale modifications or the use of aftermarket parts. It is extremely broad.

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You can't tinker with software settings and other non-maintenance service items.
Incorrect. You can't modify firmware related to emissions, but that is because it is illegal under the Clean Air Act. It has nothing to do with your warranty.

It is also true that there are limits on other firmware modifications if they involve encryption under the DMCA(although this is in dispute). But, again, that is a separate law. It has nothing to do with your warranty. YOUR WARRANTY CANNOT BE "VOIDED" DUE TO AFTERMARKET MODIFICATIONS.

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GM just went thru with this on people monkeying with their corvettes. They got tired of paying for blown engines. So if tampering is detected, they blacklist you in their dealer system.

They can stonewall you all they like. Winning a case is really expensive and they know it.

If they tell you they'll void you if you change the BMS software, they mean it. You really think you are going to sue over a $5,000 part? Who's going to take that case unless they get paid by the hour. My lawyer is around $500 an hour for office, double that for court.
Did you even read what I wrote about spec lawyers? They DO get paid by the hour. It is just that those hours are collected from the OEM (assuming that they lose, which they will if your mod didn't cause the fault). As I said already, in practice, the OEM will generally settle just as soon as you make it clear that you and your lawyer are serious, precisely BECAUSE they know how expensive it is. Do you really think that this hasn't been thought through?

Your Corvette friends are irrelevant, since (by your admission) they are blowing up their engines. Damage that you cause is not covered by your warranty.

There is a whole industry of lawyers who make their money taking these cases. As I said, the system works very well.

I repeat: Please do not spread blatant misinformation when the truth is readily available to anyone taking the time to look it up.
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I have no idea, but it looks similar to that. Just wondering if the LCD display looks like that with bright red colors on others.
I don't think that's the reguator in your coach. It should be an MC-614 which has a similar red LED display. The ARS 5 doesn't have a complete setup mode for lithiums accprding to the Balmar tech I spoke with on Friday.
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I don't think that's the reguator in your coach. It should be an MC-614 which has a similar red LED display. The ARS 5 doesn't have a complete setup mode for lithiums accprding to the Balmar tech I spoke with on Friday.
Thanks! That red LCD display would be hard to miss when it's working properly. Looks pretty bright.
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