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Old 08-02-2017, 02:14 AM   #421
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I'm pretty sure Jim Hammil also said that with all the EckoTreks offline, the inverter/converter will not be powered by shore power.
That's correct. If just the battery disconnect switch is "off", the converter will still operate if the inverter is on,(at least on our coach) but if the lithiums are switched off, the converter doesn't operate because the inverter can't power up.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:15 PM   #422
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i have read several people with voltstart issues. I have read several people without voltstart issues. I have read several people with ecotrek issues-i have read several people without ecotrek issues.

I read the facebook forums a lot-because i'm retired and our medical issues stop us from lot of touring not camping-which is the reason we got the roadtrek in the first place.

Be that as it may -the biggest issue i see is that no matter how much time passes the same issues keep cropping up no matter when they are built by roadtrek.

it seems the same haphazard problems over and over. some have no issues
with ecotrek /voltstart-and some are disasters. beats me why time passing does not cut the issues down
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I can't find any posts reporting Voltstart problems, which is not to say they don't exist, but I would like to see some evidence.

What is an "ecotrek issue"?


Some saw this coming from way back.



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Old 08-02-2017, 02:21 PM   #423
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Some saw this coming from way back.



One of the reasons I didn't order Voltstart and don't have it.
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:09 PM   #424
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One of the reasons I didn't order Voltstart and don't have it.
Are you on your way home?
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:05 PM   #425
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Are you on your way home?
Nope, still at dealership. They got the new Balmar and it's hooked up and showing nice red lights and codes and such. It has one display cycle that shows the lithium battery voltage, and another voltage display that is apparently what the regulator is set to charge the batteries to.

The readout of lithium voltage on one eckotrek showed 12.9 and the "to" value showed 14.0. After about ten minutes of idling the engine, however, the lithium battery voltage dropped to 12.8 so it's not charging.

Working with Nations and Balmar and RT to try to figure this out.
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Nope, still at dealership. They got the new Balmar and it's hooked up and showing nice red lights and codes and such. It has one display cycle that shows the lithium battery voltage, and another voltage display that is apparently what the regulator is set to charge the batteries to.

The readout of lithium voltage on one eckotrek showed 12.9 and the "to" value showed 14.0. After about ten minutes of idling the engine, however, the lithium battery voltage dropped to 12.8 so it's not charging.

Working with Nations and Balmar and RT to try to figure this out.
We then turned on all batteries and it showed 13.2 (the other one was the weakest) and tried that but no difference.

But after fifteen minutes or so we turned the original one (that was reading 12.9) on and reset it and it now reads 13.1 so the guys are thinking it might be charging actually.
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Nope, still at dealership. They got the new Balmar and it's hooked up and showing nice red lights and codes and such. It has one display cycle that shows the lithium battery voltage, and another voltage display that is apparently what the regulator is set to charge the batteries to.

The readout of lithium voltage on one eckotrek showed 12.9 and the "to" value showed 14.0. After about ten minutes of idling the engine, however, the lithium battery voltage dropped to 12.8 so it's not charging.

Working with Nations and Balmar and RT to try to figure this out.

good luck and good luck again
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We then turned on all batteries and it showed 13.2 (the other one was the weakest) and tried that but no difference.

But after fifteen minutes or so we turned the original one (that was reading 12.9) on and reset it and it now reads 13.1 so the guys are thinking it might be charging actually.
Don't these guys have a clamp on ammeter, so they can actually tell if it is charging or not? If not, they don't know what they are doing, IMO.

Is the alternator getting hot, it should?
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Nope, still at dealership. They got the new Balmar and it's hooked up and showing nice red lights and codes and such. It has one display cycle that shows the lithium battery voltage, and another voltage display that is apparently what the regulator is set to charge the batteries to.

The readout of lithium voltage on one eckotrek showed 12.9 and the "to" value showed 14.0. After about ten minutes of idling the engine, however, the lithium battery voltage dropped to 12.8 so it's not charging.

Working with Nations and Balmar and RT to try to figure this out.
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We then turned on all batteries and it showed 13.2 (the other one was the weakest) and tried that but no difference.

But after fifteen minutes or so we turned the original one (that was reading 12.9) on and reset it and it now reads 13.1 so the guys are thinking it might be charging actually.
For all the Balmar fans, here is video of its display while idling and hooked up to this 1600 amp hour lithium rig.

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[QUOTE=WingedRyno;60742]For all the Balmar fans, here is video of its display while idling and hooked up to this 1600 amp hour lithium rig.

Thanks.

Be careful, though. That video is NOT of the Balmar MC-614. You can tell because the 614 is potted and the shown device is not. The display looks similar, but it may or may not be identical.
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