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Old 08-04-2017, 11:01 AM   #501
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Congratulation and have fun. Is your Alde diesel or LPG power?
Diesel.

And thanks to a small cold snap with last night down to about 50F - I was able to test out the Alde. And it worked fine. Nice feeling to have a warm floor on bare feet!
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:09 PM   #502
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Diesel for Alde must be new as their literature doesn’t list one. Perhaps, just like Truma partnered with Eberspacher for diesel burner technology, Alde partnered with someone as well. There are only a few companies making diesel heaters for automotvie application, Eberspacher (Espar in NA) and Webasto from Germany, Planar from Russia and one or more Chinese copies. I believe that Espar penetrated NA market well.

Diesel burners need more maintenance than LPG ones, Eberspacher / Espar or Webasto recommend very specific maintenance. A generic maintenance is to clean combustion chamber and other components by running the heater on high fueled by kerosene. Diesel heaters are complex and for diagonostics their thrmostats usuaaly include system fail code readers, I hope Alde has one as well.

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Old 08-04-2017, 05:46 PM   #503
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Diesel.

And thanks to a small cold snap with last night down to about 50F - I was able to test out the Alde. And it worked fine. Nice feeling to have a warm floor on bare feet!
You have got to love Minnesota cold snaps in the middle of August.
I'm heading there in a couple of weeks and looking forward to escaping the heat here in Maryland.
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You have got to love Minnesota cold snaps in the middle of August.
I'm heading there in a couple of weeks and looking forward to escaping the heat here in Maryland.
Yep, we had no more than 57* yesterday, 70's for the next few coming, but it is August so we will have some 90s and high dew points waiting for you along with the 5# mosquitoes . What part of Mn are heading for?
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Yep, we had no more than 57* yesterday, 70's for the next few coming, but it is August so we will have some 90s and high dew points waiting for you along with the 5# mosquitoes . What part of Mn are heading for?
First stop will be Austin, then on to Stillwater. Ultimately Brooklyn Park and a flight to Iceland. After Iceland and Greenland heading to Michigan Upper Peninsula - our summer trip this year.

I was born and raised in Saint Cloud. Left the state to join the Navy after college and haven't lived there since. But we do get back every year, usually in summer, since we have a lot of family there. I have made the trip with my Sprinter van in the middle of February. That was a good test of starting at -17degF.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:01 PM   #506
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I do still think it is highly unlikely. Of course anything can and does happen sometimes. I think it is also just as likely, or more, there was something else that was wrong, either wiring or how set that contributed, but we will never here about that if it was.
Programming would not be a factor in the first failure since that one never lit off at all. It may have been a factor in the second one but I doubt it since the display was active and indicated both the correct battery voltage and the desired target voltage which should have activated the field winding terminal which apparently was unresponsive.

Except for some far reaching locations, most of these coaches are driven to the dealer which would provide the opportunity for a sufficiently trained driver to to verify that everything is up to snuff. That doesn't seem to be the case. Our coach on delivery had a non-functional dash AC which required a trip to Chevy to determine that there was a crack in one of the tubes. That was fixed but it was then determined that there was a defective dash AC control which was replaced and restored correct operation. Bottom line is that this coach was driven 700+ miles to the dealer and it's difficult to believe that for that distance that the driver wouldn't have noticed the inert dash AC, but it was never reported to the dealer on delivery.

WingedRyno's situation is somewhat different. If those batteries were fully charged on departure from the factory, with a humongous 1600ah battery bank, there might not have been any obvious symptoms of lack of GU alternator support during the drive to the dealer.
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I don't think that the first Balmar can be assumed to not have been on at all, as something could have taken it out before it was looked at. There is no way Nations could have programmed it if it wouldn't light up even. The second could have been bad, programmed wrong, or there could have been two separate problems in the van. Nobody will really never know, and that doesn't really matter, I think, it is just the extremely high odds against having two bad ones, that were known to at least partially function while at Nations would be very unusual.
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I don't think that the first Balmar can be assumed to not have been on at all, as something could have taken it out before it was looked at. There is no way Nations could have programmed it if it wouldn't light up even. The second could have been bad, programmed wrong, or there could have been two separate problems in the van. Nobody will really never know, and that doesn't really matter, I think, it is just the extremely high odds against having two bad ones, that were known to at least partially function while at Nations would be very unusual.
OK, as a raw statistic, I agree with your assessment of the odds. That said, however, the OEM testing protocol is not clear. If Nations programs every Balmar that comes in the door, since the first regulator couldn't even be programmed, it would have been discarded. But if Balmar programs them to Nation's specifications perhaps they aren't subjected to further testing at Nations. One thing to note is that Nations indicated with respect to the second regulator they were shipping, that they were testing it. How was this test different from their normal Q&A?
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AFAIK, Nations is still doing the programming of the units, but it could have changed. My guess would be that they normally don't really "test" them as in running them on a test bench with an alternator and battery, but they would see if the power up and program when the do the programming. The second one probably went on the test bench. The programming issue is what makes the first one very suspect as having been damaged by something in the van or at Roadtrek. As I said, we will never know, and it mostly interesting, but nothing much more unless they could have learned something in the past that could have prevented WingedRyno from having so much trouble.
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Our coach on delivery had a non-functional dash AC which required a trip to Chevy to determine that there was a crack in one of the tubes. That was fixed but it was then determined that there was a defective dash AC control which was replaced and restored correct operation.
It is interesting about the AC issue. If it was one of the tubes on the passenger side of the engine, it could have been cracked putting in the engine generator. On the Chevies, there is very little room in that area to stuff in the hardware and alternator, and it does vary a bit by years. Our 07 was worse than another member's 09 chassis with and extra valve there for heater shutoff and a different wiring harness position. You literally have to bend the accumulator tank out of the way.
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