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Old 08-27-2017, 04:55 PM   #611
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Now this is odd. Out of the blue someone called me last night about my zion thats at the storage yard.

i let him ask me questions as he cannot find one with the side couch already on someones lot.

I said i did not have ecotreks just the standard tppl agm battery.

He then questioned how i could have solar panels. at the time i bought it solar panels were an option.

Now it seems they only give solar panels with ecotreks as a package and not an option.

i looked at the site and i don't see solars panels as a single option to get with your agm on a zion. I love my solar panels.

i'm wondering if they are forcing solar panels on ecotreks because of their use of power .

I'm sure if an agm buyer wanted it they could get it.
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:46 PM   #612
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So I confirmed that the underhood generator is not charging the batteries. I ran two last night to power the A/C while boondocking on BLM land, and then this morning with outside temp in the high 50s, I started the engine. Turned one of those two batteries on and the green light came on after a few moments with the engine running (which makes me think power is getting to them somehow...) -- the voltage was showing 12.7. It was the only battery I tried to charge and the fridge/freezer was the only load.

After an hour of driving, it showed 12.6. After a few more hours it showed 13.03. That's all because of solar I'm almost certain.

Tried calling Las Mesa in ABQ but they don't have any availability until 21 Sep. So I"ll just hit up RV parks once or twice a week and swap batteries around 13.1 volts or so in order to keep from storing them with too low a charge before I hit up an RV park and plug in to charge them up.

Balmar seems to work but I'll be fixing a permanent camera in the hood of the vehicle to start recording its performance and display.
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:30 AM   #613
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Sorry to see you still have problems. Perhaps this simple DC clamp meter can help you to troubleshoot your new van (see the picture). Fluke has one with remote display but it is 5 x more expensive. I think that using video camera to look under the hood digital display is interesting, it would be nice to have a charge current meter inside the cabin, many RVs and boats have this feature.

I suggest to install a shunt based battery(s) bank monitor(s) to fully understand you very complex system performance. Otherwise you will be facing a hit and miss style yours or dealer's troubleshooting. Shunt based battery monitors are fundamental for all battery systems.

You could get this inexpensive battery monitor (see the picture) to install on the second alternator only, at least you would know if Balmar is charging without under hood camera.
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Sorry to see you still have problems. Perhaps this simple DC clamp meter can help you to troubleshoot your new van (see the picture). Fluke has one with remote display but it is 5 x more expensive. I think that using video camera to look under the hood digital display is interesting, it would be nice to have a charge current meter inside the cabin, many RVs and boats have this feature.

I suggest to install a shunt based battery(s) bank monitor(s) to fully understand you very complex system performance. Otherwise you will be facing a hit and miss style yours or dealer's troubleshooting. Shunt based battery monitors are fundamental for all battery systems.

You could get this inexpensive battery monitor (see the picture) to install on the second alternator only, at least you would know if Balmar is charging without under hood camera.
Awesome idea, thanks. I'll look into that.

Looking under the rig, I think *perhaps* I've found the problem? I took a look and this blue wire was just dangling and not connected to anything. There is a brown plug on the GU that looks like it would accept the blue wire connection.

Would love it if this was the issue because I think I could fix this myself

I won't be plugging it in until I get some confirmation though.

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Awesome idea, thanks. I'll look into that.

Looking under the rig, I think *perhaps* I've found the problem? I took a look and this blue wire was just dangling and not connected to anything. There is a brown plug on the GU that looks like it would accept the blue wire connection.

Would love it if this was the issue because I think I could fix this myself

I won't be plugging it in until I get some confirmation though.

The blue wire provides field output to the alternator which it needs to provide suds. Looking at the regulator with the LED indicators on top, this wire should be connected to to the top vertically oriented pin on the right side of the regulator. The other end should be connected to the alternator.
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The blue wire provides field output to the alternator which it needs to provide suds. Looking at the regulator with the LED indicators on top, this wire should be connected to to the top vertically oriented pin on the right side of the regulator. The other end should be connected to the alternator.
So you think it's okay to plug that blue wire underneath into that brown receptacle on the alternator?

I imagine if it fits into the slot then it was designed to go there. Seems a safe bet!
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So you think it's okay to plug that blue wire underneath into that brown receptacle on the alternator?

I imagine if it fits into the slot then it was designed to go there. Seems a safe bet!
I would call Adam at Nations and ask him, or Lake Regions to see if the tech remembers. If you smoke it, you might have trouble getting it replaced.
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I would call Adam at Nations and ask him, or Lake Regions to see if the tech remembers. If you smoke it, you might have trouble getting it replaced.
Yeah I emailed the tech at Lake Regions and I'll wait to hear from him.
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Dealer tech got back to me and confirmed that needs to be plugged in. So will test that out when I break camp on Thursday.
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Actually I tested it out today. Works like a charm! Thank God for simple maintenance issues.
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