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Old 08-12-2016, 09:01 PM   #1
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Re: Class B Purchase Decision - Roadtrek, Pleasureway, Winnebago

I'm a newbie, a displaced New Yorker losing my NYC rent stabilized apartment to the 12th biggest slumlord in NYC who's made living conditions unihabitable (mice, mold, no repairs, constant demolition of other apartments leaving holes in my walls for more vermin).

I've looked around at other places on the east coast where I might consider living and nothing intrigues me, especially moving into another apartment.

As a kid, i dreamed of living in different places in the United States .. (different every week) .. meeting new people. I rented a car for three months in California and drove all around the West, stopping in an occasional motel, sleeping in the car when it wasn't 95 degrees at night. I had a VW Vanagon for a year that I bought while on vacation in Whitefish Montana that I loved. Unfortunately the economy the next year ran down the toilet and I was jobless.

I've been watching the videos on youtube about living in an RV. I've narrowed it down to a class B. Here's the dilemma .... I've found three (this year's model) that are suitable. I also love the old explorer design with the wide rear.

Maybe some of you can lend me your thoughts are these three vans I'm comparing (all American platforms as I've owned VW's all my life and know what a nightmare it is to get parts .. even if you are near a major city .. and I know the costs ... )

Here's What I'm looking at: (three season living)

- Pleasureway Lexor TS - what I like about it is the air-i-ness. I like the unobstructed views on the passenger's side. Well made (might be a little short on storage as compared to the others). I like being able to sit in the back and it's like an enclosed bubble sitting in nature (with all the shades up) ... Very open.

- Roadtrek Zion - nice looking. Seems Roadtrek and Pleasureway get good reviews. Don't like not being able to turn around and seeing cars coming up on the passenger side. Like the color schemes. Don't know if it's comparable to the Pleasureway. All three have features I'd love if were combined.

-Winnebago Trivato - Loaded with features. More affordable. Not as elegant. I've recently read reviews of people who praise their Winnebago and HATE their Winnebago. A lot of reviews about all the problems even buying new (I'm a far ways away from any dealerships) ... Again, it's a though choice. The three are all built on the Dodge Ram Chassis which has an open view of the road (like my big boxy VW Vanagon did) .. no long engine nose sticking out.

It's an expensive decision, I don't want to make the wrong one at these prices. I would like to get additional Solar as I would prefer to boondock as much as I can and show up at an RV campground as a last resort, or if I find a town I'd like to spend some time in. Would appreciate your opinions.
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I'd recommend you join Facebook and several of the Groups to chat with current owners.

The Travato Owners & Wannabees group is very active for the Winnebago's. There are Pleasureway & Roadtrek groups too. I don't recommend Roadtrekking group, as it's a shill site run by the company. There is also my ClassBCamperVans group which is about all the brands, including all the old ones.

As for the Travato, I can highly recommend it. Check out my blog and you can see all the mods and projects I've done to tinker with mine. My quality experience has been excellent so far - no warranty issues at all. As a value proposition, if you are shopping for new, none of the others can beat it on price, regardless of features.

Good luck in what you decide!
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Thank you ... I'm going to check them out now ... including your blog.

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> unobstructed views on the passenger's side.


Have you tried sitting in the driver's seat and look?

Other than big trucks and buses,
you don't see much.


The airy view is a nice feeling though.
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> unobstructed views on the passenger's side.


Have you tried sitting in the driver's seat and look?

Other than big trucks and buses,
you don't see much.


The airy view is a nice feeling though.
I gotta agree. The turn around and look leaves some pretty big blind spots for motorcycles, small cars, lane straddlers, etc. A properly set, and used passenger side mirror gives a much better view of everything, and you still have the forward look in you peripheral vision, so much less time of no forward look.
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That is one thing I really like about my K. You can see down both sides of the van thru the interior windows.

On all the Promasters, you can see thru the back windows in your interior rear view mirror. It's just a sliver of view on most of them though. But generally, you can see if there is a small car directly behind you that you can't see in your side view mirrors.

You'd have to move up to a Sprinter based product to get the side view cameras, but that's not what you are shopping for.
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I think any of your 3 choices are reasonable but you need to actually get in them to see how the layouts will work for you. The best source for info, both good and bad experiences, from actual Zion owners is the Roadtrek Owners Group on Facebook, it is independent of the company and run by owners.
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It is very easy to monitor blind spot traffic coming up on your left with convex mirrors that are practically in your field of view. On the right with the mirror farther away and a need for turning your head to view it, it is more critical to me. Having a row of windows on the right side I often pick up through my peripheral vision a car coming up on my right side before I focus on the mirror. It's faster and more comfortably safer to me.

Motorcycles are definitely vexing. I think it is a combination of things. One, we are not tuned to recognize them as readily as a car. Two, they seem to move and accelerate at a different speed or pace than a car making them a little more difficult to pick up. Third, some just don't obey lane rules you come to expect with cars.

Also I like being able to use a windshield rear view mirror and having back windows so I can see distant approaching traffic and anticipate accordingly.
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The lower blind spot mirror on the 08 Sprinter we have does a good job of covering the big blind spot and adjusting the top mirror to the right spot gives a good indication when you are past a car you are passing and can pull back over...

When we are carrying bikes the rear windows are partially blocked but there is some visibility of traffic to the rear...
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Driven big trucks, busses and vans for years- I use the side mirrors and try to keep an awareness of what is behind, in which lane and closing rate.
So I wouldn;t give that alot of weight- as a matter of fact on most recent trip I have reflectix covers over the rear windows on my Lexor TD to control heat.


I DO prefer the cabinetry and more "open" feel of most PW's vs most RT's- that is due to most RT's have 3rd or 4th seat. so the cabinets gotta go floor to ceiling.
I also find that I trip on the floor transitions on drop floor models

as you kick tires, you'll figure out what works for you and which compromises you are willing to make.

a big one for me was getting a chev chassis- i already have the manuals, oil filters and other stuff needed for my pick up and and am generally familiar with teh layout of the GM if I have to do some fixin'.
I also like the chev power and mpg better than the ford V10.

but that's me- owners who use a dealer or shop for everything may not care as much.

Our PW is a 2006 and it is great, in 2 years almost of ownership we have done a dozen short trips as well a a 4 week last year and a 3 week this year.
We made a good choice- for us.

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