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Old 08-12-2018, 12:25 AM   #1
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On our short list of potential B vans are the Agile and the Ascent. Wondering if any recent owners of these vans have any input good or bad?

Somewhat wary of the diesel. We have been studying the Sprinter and emission issues, even found a hack for resetting the restart message. But wary of sprinters reputation.

The Ascent has a nicer layout in that we like the bathroom on the driver side but it doesn’t have the ekotrek of the Agile. We like the extra safety features like blind spot, TPMS, lane assist and collision that most Bs don’t have. The Ascent seems very well built and both look stealthy and noble to handle which suits us.
Also on our list are CrossFit, Aktiv and Travato.
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I saw an Ascent this week just wandering about a sales lot while my rig was being tweaked. I was very impressed with it... but PW is always worth a look. I really liked the white chocolate cabinetry.

Like you, I am leery of Sprinters which is why my latest rig is on a Promaster. Also PW has an Onan instead of the underhood generator. But PW does come with a 100 ah lithium battery and there seems to be fewer problems than with the RT system. It also has the 3 system fridge while I prefer a 12v.

When I was making my latest choice, I made up an excel spreadsheet with the various units I was interested in. The Activ came up with the most top choices on options and inclusions... but in the end, I went with a lower price and most important... the bigger fridge. LOL
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Old 08-12-2018, 04:14 PM   #3
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Good Morning,

Here a pretty extensive video comparison of the Ascent and Agile. Reviewer is an Ascent owner but he's pretty objective with his comments/assessments.

http://youtu.be/snaUGYqAZns

Why is the Zion SRT not included in your list of potenials? Since I need a sub-20 foot coach, the Zion is #2 on my list behind the Ascent. Love the Ascent's floor plan but not sure if I want to deal with a diesel platform or the higher purchase price and extra cost of M/B parts and service.

Good luck in your search and keep us updated.

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Thanks I have seen that video and thought it was quite good.
Actually have been looking at the Zion, Zion SRT, and Simplicity too.
Trying to elicit some actual ownership info from owners of the 2018-2019 range if possible to see how they’re bearing up in reality
We also have a preference list for chassis which is Ford, Promaster, and MB.
On the Ascent/Agile we most like that the short Sprinter has safety features like our SUV, and that the Agile can be eco with no propane, whilst the As ent is very well completed.
Of course, a compilation of all the pros would be perfect, but we don’t live in a perfect world.
It’s a process!
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The best way to learn first-hand info is to join the respective model-specific Facebook owners group.
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We’re on several already and there’s such a lot of material to sift through on each getting up to speed, so just thought asking very specific question would be quicker
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These models are good candidates to be put on the new gasoline powered Sprinter. Probably won't see such a development for another 12-18 months though. Your other choices are the Promasters - Roadtrek, Hymer, Winnebago & Pleasureway all have strong offerings 19-21 feet.
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Hi,

A couple years ago we went thru the same decision. At that time we wanted a Mercedes Sprinter so it was really between Acent and Agile.

For us FWIW

Ascent - Pro's
- Layout with kitchen behind co-pilot. Only because we felt we would leave the slider open more of the time.
- Bath - Don't even remember why but I think it felt just a tad larger


Agile - Pro's
- We liked the extra tech
- Thought the sofa was firmer and for us equated to more comfortable (It is comfy but we like firm mattresses)
- Decor/Cabinetry - Seemed a bit more updated. Feels like we are in the 80's verses the 70's with the Ascent.

In the end we went with the Agile but both are really fine rigs.
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Hi,

A couple years ago we went thru the same decision. At that time we wanted a Mercedes Sprinter so it was really between Acent and Agile.

For us FWIW

Ascent - Pro's
- Layout with kitchen behind co-pilot. Only because we felt we would leave the slider open more of the time.
- Bath - Don't even remember why but I think it felt just a tad larger


Agile - Pro's
- We liked the extra tech
- Thought the sofa was firmer and for us equated to more comfortable (It is comfy but we like firm mattresses)
- Decor/Cabinetry - Seemed a bit more updated. Feels like we are in the 80's verses the 70's with the Ascent.

In the end we went with the Agile but both are really fine rigs.
Thanks!
How has your Agile held up as far as maintenance and the emission system? We’ve heard horror stories about Sprinters stopping running due to failed sensors and or problems with DEF? Also many say the dealerships are few and far bdtwen especially out west and that they’re always more expensive. Many say they’d never buy a Sprinter again or a diesel for that matter, how about you?
Our local mechanic, great guy and diesel class A owner says he’d buy diesel over gas. Which seems against popular opinion on many forums and that he prefers Ford over GMC.
We plan to see Agile/Ascent in person.
Agile has the electronic options we like and can get all electric with no propane. Saw one online with two inverters one just for induction stove top. Ascent has bathoom behind driver which we like and both have much more safety features than Fird and GMC rigs. We think the shorter length is good for the two of us for what we need.
Thanks for your input and any more insight you can offer!
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Thanks!
How has your Agile held up as far as maintenance and the emission system? We’ve heard horror stories about Sprinters stopping running due to failed sensors and or problems with DEF? Also many say the dealerships are few and far bdtwen especially out west and that they’re always more expensive. Many say they’d never buy a Sprinter again or a diesel for that matter, how about you?
Our local mechanic, great guy and diesel class A owner says he’d buy diesel over gas. Which seems against popular opinion on many forums and that he prefers Ford over GMC.
We plan to see Agile/Ascent in person.
Agile has the electronic options we like and can get all electric with no propane. Saw one online with two inverters one just for induction stove top. Ascent has bathoom behind driver which we like and both have much more safety features than Fird and GMC rigs. We think the shorter length is good for the two of us for what we need.
Thanks for your input and any more insight you can offer!
Hi,

I am in the "pro diesel" camp at this point. I just believe it is a real truck/ commercial vehicle . Probably just in my head............than reality. I feel resale will be better down the road as well but I could have purchased a Zion SRT and saved the money upfront rather than what I think the tail-end will bring.

We do not fear the emission issues. FedEx puts hundreds of thousand miles on them. If I need to spend some bucks on emissions down the road I just will despite the expense.

Unlike many of this forum, we did not see Pleasure Way as a step up in build quality. We did with Leisure Travel Vans just as an FYI back when they made a true B but not a 144".

The AC unit was replaced a few months back but that is more an issue with the maker and could plaque any number of upfitted vans.

My wife was like you where she didn't want any propane. Have diesel Alde for heat and hot water which works very well the few times we have used it.

We are relatively new to RVing so take what we say with a grain of salt. We are still happy with our purchase and as I stated, we went with Roadtrek due to the Tech (which includes no propane ability) primarily. The finishes were more to our liking as well.
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