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Old 03-29-2017, 08:41 PM   #1
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Default Any newer Roadtrek Simplicity owners out there?

What little I've been able to find seems to indicate initial impressions of poor quality in the new Roadtrek Simplicity models. I'm new and hope to buy an RV sometime in the future and I really like the layout of the Simplicity.
Are there some other Simplicity owners out there that can add to this discussion?

Thanks so much!
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:51 PM   #2
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the most concern i would have with the simplicity is that it only has 100 amp hour battery.

because the zion has the tppl agm 187 amp hour battery which is actually equivalent to 210 amp hours of standard agm the simplicity has 1/2 the battery. it also has no solar panels.

this is strictly a plug in every night vehicle. if thats what your looking for then it's aok

but it's underpinings aare far less than a zion.
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Thank you for that. Maybe the Zion is a much better choice. What do you mean by "underpinnings"? The chassis and drive train, etc. are all the same right?
Forgive me please, if that's a stupid question. IM not a mechanic!!
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Thank you for that. Maybe the Zion is a much better choice. What do you mean by "underpinnings"? The chassis and drive train, etc. are all the same right?
Forgive me please, if that's a stupid question. IM not a mechanic!!
i'm sorry i used the word underpinnings. i used it in the sense that it's battery power and solar is either small or non-existent.

People do make the mistake of thinking its a zion knockoff with a few doodads removed.

However the battery size and solar loss make it a plug in every night type vehicle.

you cannot compare it to zion in that respect
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:42 AM   #5
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What Gerry said +1
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Old 03-30-2017, 02:05 AM   #6
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I bought a 2016 Simplicity (not SRT) in December. First RV. I wanted a new RV at the cheapest entry point that could carry 4-5 and sleep 3. I was also looking for fridge capacity. Out the door price was around $70K. It does not have the bells and whistles of a Zion (ie. solar, leather, colored body molding, generator), but is meeting our needs. As is stated on many of these blogs, it all depends on your needs. Ours were simple and I expect we will either plug in most of the time or run the engine when needing power and battery cannot support. On the Simplicity, you could add another battery or upgrade the current battery. Regarding build Quality; I have had several minor issues that I have addressed myself such as too small of screws holding panels on (I bought larger screws to solve problem). Some loose screws holding cabinetry in (tightened). For our first RV, I could not justify $90K for the upgrades, whether Roadtrek or other vendor. I use ours for camping as well as a Daily driver (nice for lunch time to get away from work, but not leave work). As I find an issue or opportunity to upgrade, I am doing so with minor expense and learning along the way. An example is the Zion comes with a screen door. For about $40, I installed a bug screen per others' recommendations that does the same thing, albeit, not as finished. I imagine that upgrade alone is $1000+ on new models. Keep also in ind the cost of the footsteps that automatically come out or a motorized awning. It all adds up, so again, depends on your needs. I looked at it from the standpoint of less to go wrong and fix later.
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Keep also in mind the cost of the footsteps that automatically come out or a motorized awning. It all adds up, so again, depends on your needs. I looked at it from the standpoint of less to go wrong and fix later.
I think you make a good point that the lack of automated retractable steps and motorized awning that might be seen as a shortcoming to more luxurious buyers could also be considered a benefit for users seeking a simpler, lower maintenance recreational vehicle.

The Simplicity's single coach battery seems like the most significant functional limitation. But if a second battery can be added that limitation would not be too severe. According to Roadtrek they did spec the larger 220 amp Promaster alternator, so brief daytime driving or high idling may restore much of the battery charge.

aturner, when you run the engine when needing off-grid power does it seem to adequately recharge the battery? And have you added a high-idle control or other method for increasing the alternator output or is it adequate at standard idle?
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We get by fine on a single group 24 battery for a few days unless the furnace gets involved heavily and/or the Fantastic Fan. Different folks have different electrical budgets. Old mechanical Dometic fridge helps in this regard along with LED lighting. Probably the biggest draw would be the water pump, and not a whole lotta that. A 100 watt portable solar panel extends our time boondocking indefinitely, assuming some decent sun.
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How soon do we forget that
we have been RVing with a single wet cell battery for years.

additions and subtractions of modern day power use:


Use more power than previous years:
recharge cell phone
recharge computer
Wifi router
Cell signal booster
DVD player
Watch TV instead of listening to radio

Use less power than previous years:
LED light


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I'd like to see more about the RT Simplicity. It, the Hymer Sonne, and the Winnebago Travato are in a similar price range, although the Travato has two batteries and an Onan generator, while RT's engine generator can add another 10k to the price tag.

I'm happy to see competition in this sector of the market, as it brings more people into the class "B" fold.
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