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Old 03-29-2018, 02:46 AM   #41
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As I sit on the fence contemplating do I buy new, used, or build a camper van... I'm wondering if you have any regrets with the your decision.
Great discussion. Many good constructive comments. You are not alone in the process many of us go through.

The bug hit me when I saw one of the new 2014 Travato G floorplans. Except for the "ridiculous" price, it looked "almost" perfect for my needs.
Started with what I thought was a reasonable budget of $25 or $30K.
I paired down the options from what I wanted, to what I needed.
Like everyone else, I had features that were "must haves" and "nice to haves".
As I shopped, I figured out how little my budget would get me, how many sacrifices I would have to make for it to work within my budget.
I decided even $30K was too much, if I wasn't going to get what I wanted.
As I refined my requirements I decided I did not want to put that kind of money into a used unit that was sacrificing so many of my priorities.
I "adjusted" my budget up to $50K and decided a new van with a self build was the way to go.
A few more months of research and I realized the chances were too high I may end up working on a rig for the next couple of years, or even possibly never really finishing what I had started (many folks end up in this scenario).
To make a long(er) story short, 2 years later, I ended up "adjusting" my budget again, and bought a 2016 Travato.
The only sacrifice I had to make was money, and the fact that I actually got a few EXTRA features I didn't feel I needed.

I have absolutely NO REGRETS. For the last 2 years we have travelled extensively and enjoyed the hell out of Class B Ownership (in MY case, MUCH more fun than building a Van). I still look at other rigs, but have yet to find one that is a better value, or suits me better.

The point is we ALL have to sacrifice something. Whether it be comfort, size, cost, technology, time, or whatever. Only YOU know what YOU need, and what sacrifices you can live with. Everyone has to go through the process and hopefully come out at the other end with the right decision.

In my opinion, The only bad decision is no decision at all. Every day you labor on it, is a day lost of building your dream or LIVING your dream. "Just Do It". Start where you can, but Start. Life is short - It's MUCH more fun DOING than DREAMING.

Best of luck to you!
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:44 AM   #42
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Well said Scottbaldassari!
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:29 PM   #43
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Started with what I thought was a reasonable budget of $25 or $30K...

I "adjusted" my budget up to $50K...

... ended up "adjusting" my budget again...
Yep. Been there, done that, and in pretty much that order.

We started out looking at used vans, but I kept seeing in the NADA guide that the used price was pretty much what they sold for new. Yes, it was less than a new van currently sells for, but I couldn't get out of my head that there appeared to be almost no depreciation on ten-year-old vans.

Probably won't work that way for us (we are experts at buying high and selling low), but I couldn't justify paying $50-$95K to potentially inherit someone else's problems. So we bought a new, good-quality-but-not-fancy unit off the lot.

Sometimes I regret not waiting another year. Our van is an early production model and Coachmen has been adding lots of improvements based on initial customer response, so I sometimes have a bit of new-car envy. OTOH, over the past six months, we've taken several trips and like Scott says, doing is better than dreaming. We aren't getting that time back so I'm glad we spent it well.
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:50 PM   #44
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On a budget?

In the meantime,
those $300k+ rigs from ARV etc., are flying out of the door.

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On a budget?

In the meantime,
those $300k+ rigs from ARV etc., are flying out of the door.

All satisfied customers getting what they want with no regrets.
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All satisfied customers getting what they want with no regrets.
I'm sold Davydd! I would definitely get an ARV... But I would probably regret becoming bankrupt!
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I'm sold Davydd! I would definitely get an ARV... But I would probably regret becoming bankrupt!
But, you would be living in the very best Van Down By the River.
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Example: We had just ridden the choo choo train that runs from Chama NM, to Antonito, CO. The Cumbres, Toltec,
Wow Steve you were about 7 miles past my Mothers ranch , If you were on
rt 285. There right across the road from the Red Rock Mine.
We.ve been on the Toltec train ride. Great ride. My sister owned the restaurant and bar at the RR.
I have stayed with friends in La Hara. Small world
Glad you got the van fixed, the motorcycle was a life saver.
I want to do that same Route some time.
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Wow Steve you were about 7 miles past my Mothers ranch , If you were on
rt 285. There right across the road from the Red Rock Mine.
We.ve been on the Toltec train ride. Great ride. My sister owned the restaurant and bar at the RR.
I have stayed with friends in La Hara. Small world
Glad you got the van fixed, the motorcycle was a life saver.
I want to do that same Route some time.
Indeed. I had the motorcycle with to have fun with on a three month trip. Had fun on Rt17 with it. Our routing had us drop down through Taos then east on US64. Wonderful, beautiful area.

In the past, the moto did not come every trip, depending on itinerary. I had planned on not bringing it on future trips to AK and Newfoundland. My thinking has changed to it's always traveling with me. The enclosed trailer that it rides in only costs about 1.5 mpg and comes in handy for other storage, particularly riding safety gear.

The trailer has become such a fixture that I mounted a remote start Champion inverter genny on the tongue to replace the loud and unreliable Onan. Much better, especially in the noise/vibration department.
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Indeed. I had the motorcycle with to have fun with on a three month trip. Had fun on Rt17 with it. Our routing had us drop down through Taos then east on US64. Wonderful, beautiful area.
Hope you stopped in Taos we've been there many times.
Its a great area and a good stop.
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Hey guys, be careful talking about Southern Colorado and Northern New Mexico. Tooooooooooooo many people may find out about it and spoil our month of boondocking out there every summer.
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Hey guys, be careful talking about Southern Colorado and Northern New Mexico. Tooooooooooooo many people may find out about it and spoil our month of boondocking out there every summer.


It's a great place if you can put up with the constant paper mill, sewer, and hog farm smells.
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