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Old 02-10-2019, 05:20 PM   #31
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I agree with Greg and Avanti. Most potential customers aren't paying attention and if you are looking at long term damage it would be to relationships with their dealer network. But if a couple months from now things settle out and they have established a credible sense of stability, this will just be a bump in the road.

Establishing credibility requires that what information they provide is accurate. Unlike some of the rumors here, the dealer service guy I talked to didn't expect the warranty and parts freeze to end this week, much less last week. They were apparently told a week or more. In short, they seem to be in the under promise over deliver mode. Which is a lot better than regular updates based on incomplete information.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:29 PM   #32
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they seem to be in the under promise over deliver mode.
Huh?
What, exactly, has been "delivered" so far?
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:54 PM   #33
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On 2/8/2019 I spoke with a fellow in RT parts concerning the delivery to my dealer of a lithium battery which failed on my RT. I was told that the parts department was shut down for inventory, with nothing coming or going out until the inventory is completed. I asked when that would be, and he surmised that it would be completed by. Tues. 2/12. He said that “parts” had been told by management; that once the the inventory was complete, that it would be business as usual. I will wait and see, because my crystal ball is not working.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:56 PM   #34
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There was a report on FB from someone who works at the Cambridge factory. They are there, but not working... "playing cards and counting" he said. So apparently some are helping the auditors with the inventory. He didn't seem to think it ended on this past Friday either.
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:11 PM   #35
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Everyone talks about Hammill, but wasn't Howard Stratton COO the one that put family on payroll? I know buck stops with CEO but I see no comments about Stratton on any of these forums. Hammill has deleted his linkedin (when the news hit the fan) however Stratton profile still there https://www.linkedin.com/in/howard-stratton-57278425/ as well as Angela Stratton (daughter?) https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-s...alSubdomain=ca
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:40 PM   #36
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Everyone talks about Hammill, but wasn't Howard Stratton COO the one that put family on payroll? I know buck stops with CEO but I see no comments about Stratton on any of these forums. Hammill has deleted his linkedin (when the news hit the fan) however Stratton profile still there https://www.linkedin.com/in/howard-stratton-57278425/ as well as Angela Stratton (daughter?) https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-s...alSubdomain=ca

I think that they all have gotten lumped together (3 people, it appears) because they all came from Bud Wheel and have worked together for a long, long time. They also all got "eliminated" together. Add to it that this kind of fraud, if it is true, would be very hard for one person, even a COO to do by themselves. The CFO would likely see the discrepancies in the financials, and the CEO should be aware of a bunch of missing vans or falsified VINs as there would have to be some oddness of sales numbers.


At this point, how it all shakes out for any of the individuals is wide open, I think. They could have all been in it together all the way to none or only one involved. Others could have just turned blind eye to the issues.


Nobody knows yet, and it could stay that way if no criminal charges or civil suits are filed, as the company is private.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:39 PM   #37
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Default Update - inventory still in progress.

Report from facebook group posted today:

"I contacted Roadtrek this morning to get a status on the inventory. I was told last week it would be completed by Friday. I was told this morning that the inventory was NOT completed ..."

So much for the under promise over delivery theory or someone at Roadtrek didn't get the message.
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Hmm....this seems to be taking a long time considering the size of these facilities. Most likely they are chasing down paperwork and computer files, not actually counting widgets on shelves.
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Hmm....this seems to be taking a long time considering the size of these facilities. Most likely they are chasing down paperwork and computer files, not actually counting widgets on shelves.

Yep, I think you are correct.


As with all inventories, the counting can be the quick and easy part. Reconciling the inventory to the books can be the hard part, especially if you don't know if you are looking at counting errors, fraud, or theft.
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Iím a dealer for RoadTrek Vans. From a dealers point of view there is very little information currently. I can tell you that if the worst were to happen. Thor would likely pick them up regardless. Roadtrek is a great name to have.
I will answer what I can.
Thanks, I think everyone seems to be in the dark. I was thinking a Thor purchase might be a likely outcome, seriously doubt Hymer family will infuse cash to keep it going and with no additional layoffs (after the 100 or so mid Jan) the burn rate has to be over 1M per week for payroll and to keep lights on. Saw one FB post that a factory guy said they are sitting around playing cards (Feb 12). Today I tried to message an online rep which I have been doing past few weeks but just now Feb 13, 2:30pm Canda time "No operators are currently available. Please send us an email and we will get back to you as soon as possible." Kind of strange, have you heard if there are any company wide meetings coming up?
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