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Old 09-03-2017, 08:26 PM   #1
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Default Anyone out there who builds four season Class B vans?

Hi All,

I am seriously considering the purchase of a stealthy Class B to free myself from the chains that bound me.

I can't seem to find four season Class B vans and/or I'm just not seeing such details when I view manufacturer's websites.

I would think MOST places here, in my case, Atlanta GA area roughly +34 degrees latitude, get below freezing some portion of the year even if only at night. I could be wrong since I'm a newbie but wouldn't that mean most RVs would be rendered useless in cold weather & require winterizing, etc.? To me this severely limits their usefulness.

Can anyone point me toward a manufacturer who builds four season Class B RVs?

I saw the recent post about skiing. Me too! I haven't in more than 20 years and I want to have some fun rain or shine, warm or COLD!

Thanks,

Tony
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:39 PM   #2
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Hi All,

I am seriously considering the purchase of a stealthy Class B to free myself from the chains that bound me.

I can't seem to find four season Class B vans and/or I'm just not seeing such details when I view manufacturer's websites.

I would think MOST places here, in my case, Atlanta GA area roughly +34 degrees latitude, get below freezing some portion of the year even if only at night. I could be wrong since I'm a newbie but wouldn't that mean most RVs would be rendered useless in cold weather & require winterizing, etc.? To me this severely limits their usefulness.

Can anyone point me toward a manufacturer who builds four season Class B RVs?

I saw the recent post about skiing. Me too! I haven't in more than 20 years and I want to have some fun rain or shine, warm or COLD!

Thanks,

Tony
AFAIK, ARV is the only upfitter that provides total four season capability with a glycol heating system that protects everything - tanks and piping. I really don't understand the RV community tolerating this 3 season constraint that can make an expensive RV unusable for months out of the year.
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Old 09-04-2017, 01:18 AM   #3
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It is not that difficult to use your van without water for a weekend or even a week. For years I drove back and forth from AZ to ND with no water. Flush the toilet with the pink antifreeze... and carry your drinking water. Easy to bathe with the adult bath wipes that they use in the nursing homes.

The heater works fine or like me, use a 12v mattress pad.

You guys are such wimps!!

(PS I have camped a few times where the temps got down below 25... with water on board... with no problems too. As long as it got warm during the day.)
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if your willing to pay the price-ARV
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Old 09-04-2017, 02:59 AM   #5
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If you go with an Espar hydronic heating system, it is not that difficult to replicate the ARV freeze-protection scheme. I did so, described here:

http://www.classbforum.com/forums/f5...html#post61931
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a different idea is build a sportsmobile and have all systems in the van -nothing underneath-use a porta potti
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:36 PM   #7
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I've camped down to 0 degrees F. in our Advanced RV with water in the tanks. They are since building their Bs with more wintering capability down to minus 20 degrees F.

In the past two winters we camped at Tahquamenon Falls in Michigan's UP in January where Mike Wendland hosts a Winter Freezout. There had been 30 Class Bs, mostly Roadtreks, that have withstood 3-4 days in 2 foot snows and freezing temperatures. Most had winterized their tanks and electricity was available but all Class B types have withstood winter camping.
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:39 PM   #8
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I think we all look for "four season use" to some extent and then deal with what we have.

Some will "Winterize" every time the temp goes down. That seems to be the common answer.

I keep fresh water in the fresh water tank year around (NY weather) and use a system that circulates hot water through all the water lines when the pipes get cold.
The water is heated while plugged in or with engine heat when driving.

So my criteria is that I want to be able to use my van (with water) any time. I do use the pink stuff with water to flush the john and in the gray tank so I do lose some capacity. I just don't like to have to winterize.

Keep looking for a system that will meet your requirements. I don't think there is a one size fits all.
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I think we all look for "four season use" to some extent and then deal with what we have.

Some will "Winterize" every time the temp goes down. That seems to be the common answer.

I keep fresh water in the fresh water tank year around (NY weather) and use a system that circulates hot water through all the water lines when the pipes get cold.
The water is heated while plugged in or with engine heat when driving.

So my criteria is that I want to be able to use my van (with water) any time. I do use the pink stuff with water to flush the john and in the gray tank so I do lose some capacity. I just don't like to have to winterize.

Keep looking for a system that will meet your requirements. I don't think there is a one size fits all.
Can you tell us more about your RV?
Is it a custom built?
Please start a new thread to showcase your RV.
We would love to see some pix.
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Can you tell us more about your RV?
Is it a custom built?
Please start a new thread to showcase your RV.
We would love to see some pix.
My van is a Texas Sportsmobile. All the fresh water is on the drivers side and is above the floor. I call the antifreeze system an "Active RV Antifreeze System".

You can see the build at:
My new Promaster 3500, High Roof, Long body, Sportsmobile. - Sportsmobile Forum

I did talk with ARV about the antifreeze system but they went a different way.
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