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Old 09-02-2019, 12:40 AM   #11
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I went to totally no propane 5 years ago. So, I am way ahead of the game

Seems to me you are still finding out the great deal you thought you had bragging it up when you first came to the forum is still rearing its ugly head on workmanship. Absorption refrigerators have been the mainstay for RVs for many years and have been mostly reliable. Propane is relatively safe if you know the precautions involved. I think it is just a pain remembering to shut it down when fueling and going in tunnels and riding ferries. Electrical wiring, IMO, is the least concern in regard to propane.
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:50 AM   #12
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Interesting discussion. The Amanda cycle refrigerator is a nice thing in homes where it doesn’t move. In RVs, it is in the top three trouble issues.

Really love my compressor refrigerator freezer.
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:30 PM   #13
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Interesting discussion. The Amanda cycle refrigerator is a nice thing in homes where it doesn’t move. In RVs, it is in the top three trouble issues.

Really love my compressor refrigerator freezer.
What are the other 2?

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What are the other 2?
Sprinter emissions system & Sprinter speed sensors?
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:03 PM   #15
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I went to totally no propane 5 years ago. So, I am way ahead of the game

Seems to me you are still finding out the great deal you thought you had bragging it up when you first came to the forum is still rearing its ugly head on workmanship. Absorption refrigerators have been the mainstay for RVs for many years and have been mostly reliable. Propane is relatively safe if you know the precautions involved. I think it is just a pain remembering to shut it down when fueling and going in tunnels and riding ferries. Electrical wiring, IMO, is the least concern in regard to propane.
First, I never said that I got a "great deal", maybe a "fair deal"?

Also, I didn't spend close to $250,000 on my Class B; easily done with tax, license, registration and insurance.

I'm sure your ARV model is absolutely stunning. I've actually seen them personally and was very impressed, but, not $250,000 impressed.

As for turning off the propane in tunnels, ferries etc. - don't worry, they'll stop you and ask you to do that, you don't have to actually remember. I know, they stopped us on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.

We're still going to have propane for the LPG generator and the heater. Just no refrigerator.
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Just my observation, leaks and batteries.
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:02 PM   #17
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Fires from the fridge and over heated blown out tires are the major causes of RV deaths and accidents. He is just trying to keep you safe with a little reminder of something that could have gone deadly wrong. I'm going to be sure to check at least what I can see. thanks for your post
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I run my 'fridge on 110 VAC when I'm home because it's parked on a slope, and I don't want the flame tilting into the side of the flue.

But in doing so, I get an email from SoCal Edison warning me my electric bill will go up about $50.00/mo. It's a feature of their service; with a smart meter you can set a threshold for unusual usage and they fire off an email.

So I measured the power draw just from the refrigerator and found AC operation runs about 200 to 400 watts continuously. It does not cycle on and off. Hotter days it's more. So this is one very inefficient way to run a refrigerator off from AC power. In comparison, my Whynter compressor-based fridge/freezer runs only 17 watts average. That's a massive difference.

Then there was the time when I was parked overnight in my Roadtrek and a stiff wind was bearing down on the refrigerator vent, and I had the front panel removed to fix a knob. I woke up the next day with a headache, and realized -- I had a case of CO poisoning. The front panel has seals to keep CO out, and those are just one more thing that needs maintained.

A frequent cause of RV fires are these absorption refrigerators. And when they get old, they can leak ammonia. So the risk factors here are quite significant.

So now I'm in a newer class-C and I'm looking for an excuse to replace my relatively-new fridge with a compressor based unit. Just to be safe.

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And I wonder if my friend, Amanda, knows she's a risk factor?
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Interesting about the absorption refrigerator power usage being 200 - 400 watts. That's about double what I thought (I think I'll hang a Kill-a-watt on my rig to see what mine is).

Running your absorption unit on AC on a slope will kill it. Regardless of the source of the heat input, the evaporation and condensation plumbing needs to be level.

Not having to deal with that is pushing me toward a compressor-type. But I really like the freedom from electricity worries that propane provides, so I keep my old Norcold.

[Edit] The Kill-a-watt says 180 watts AC being drawn by the Norcold in my 2004 unit, with the temp control set to max and the refrigerator interior starting at about 65 degrees F.
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rvsprinterguy, your worries are unwarranted. The draw by modern compressor fridges is minimal. Those of us who came after the absorption era, and therefore aren’t burdened with your calibration, hardly ever contemplate that it could be a problem.
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