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Old 05-17-2017, 10:48 AM   #1
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Default B-van price tops $200k

I believe that this is the first time I've ever seen a B-van price top $200k.

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I believe that this is the first time I've ever seen a B-van price top $200k.

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You need to talk to ARV, they could probably get you to $300K
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Then consider it is Lazy Daze RV....superb reputation, ha! Ron
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The issue isn't who is selling it; it's that the window sticker topped $200k.

I'm grateful for folks who have enough credit and income to spend $2000/mo on a depreciable asset, because in fifteen to twenty years they depreciate enough for regular people like me to be able to buy them.

As a reality check, my 1700sq ft, 1960 vintage mid-century modern, true brick construction Usonian-style, five BR, two 1/2 bath ranch house on a half-acre of ground has an assessed value of about $160k.
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I suspect that the B-van market is going to split into two segments: An "adventure van" segment designed with cost in mind, and a "Luxury touring coach" segment, with the "cost be damned" mind set that appeals to current ARV customers.
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There is a demographic segment of people
who are retiring with a million dollar+ home that is all paid for.
They are downsizing to a smaller townhouse/condo.
So what is $200K to them?
You cannot take your money with you.

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I suspect that the B-van market is going to split into two segments: An "adventure van" segment designed with cost in mind, and a "Luxury touring coach" segment, with the "cost be damned" mind set that appeals to current ARV customers.
I agree, you somewhat see the same thing now in class A's.
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I suspect that the B-van market is going to split into two segments: An "adventure van" segment designed with cost in mind, and a "Luxury touring coach" segment, with the "cost be damned" mind set that appeals to current ARV customers.
I think you're probably on-point there. The Travato 59G and new Hymer offerings are aimed at the price-point buyers.

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There is a demographic segment of people
who are retiring with a million dollar+ home that is all paid for.
They are downsizing to a smaller townhouse/condo.
So what is $200K to them?
You cannot take your money with you.

The question is how long it'll take until that market is saturated. I'd venture that those folks who have Prevost coaches are looking to continue traveling, but in a smaller coach as they age... and I suspect it's probably those folks who the really upscale market in B-vans is aimed at.
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I suspect that the B-van market is going to split into two segments: An "adventure van" segment designed with cost in mind, and a "Luxury touring coach" segment, with the "cost be damned" mind set that appeals to current ARV customers.
I believe this will be the case as well. With a home median price of close to $190K - $200K for a van will not be affordable for most folks.

This B-class market is a strange beast. Outside Vans from Hood River conversion cost can be around $300K, with their Spartan décor, seems as well suited for a manufacturing plant, buyers are still there and are not bothered by the use of denim for insulation. Than ARV, well build, nice décor also in $300K range with resale closely linked to custom design likely not representing the main street. There are many in the middle and there is Camping World Hymer’s Sunlight V1 with cardboard ceiling for less then $60K.

So here is my pet question, where is a van à la VW Westfalia? - which could fit the lower part of the B-class binary distribution but is not here yet.

In 2013, we look the B-class market and stopped at Airstream, I will never forget the sales pitch – “you need to take it for a ride to Seattle (from Portland)”, there was no mention about camping, she was selling the touring coach, the likely upper site of the binary distribution as quoted.

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