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Old 02-24-2019, 11:17 PM   #11
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Ross Williams seems determined to derail yet another constructive Roadtrek / Ecotrek topic. Don't feed the troll. After almost 13 years on this forum I just decided to put someone on the ignore list for the first time. I'll never see another post from him.

You inspired me to do the same. Also the first time ever for me. A one man thread destroyer.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:12 AM   #12
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The real funsuckers on any Roadtrek related post are those that only drone on about how much they hate Roadtrek products and management. Lighten up and name one thing you appreciate about Roadtrek or maybe even a slightly positive post at least. Here, Iíll start. My 2013 Roadtrek RS has been a great camper van. A few issues, but nothing different than I read about most other brands.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:20 AM   #13
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The real funsuckers on any Roadtrek related post are those that only drone on about how much they hate Roadtrek products and management. Lighten up and name one thing you appreciate about Roadtrek or maybe even a slightly positive post at least. Here, Iíll start. My 2013 Roadtrek RS has been a great camper van. A few issues, but nothing different than I read about most other brands.
Donít hold your breath waiting for a lot of love for Roadtrek here, at least for anything having to do with the recent management or the technology, both of which are fair game for some negative thoughts...
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:26 PM   #14
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The real funsuckers on any Roadtrek related post are those that only drone on about how much they hate Roadtrek products and management. Lighten up and name one thing you appreciate about Roadtrek or maybe even a slightly positive post at least. Here, Iíll start. My 2013 Roadtrek RS has been a great camper van. A few issues, but nothing different than I read about most other brands.

You must have missed the entire series of posts that clarified that many/most of us have nothing against Roadtrek, the brand, the products, or anything else Roadtrek especially the employees. The issues were with the management that came in and took over after 2006 and the decisions they made in running the company and technologies. We have a 2007 Roadtrek that we would not trade for anything we have seen and find it very sad that a great company was destroyed by a small group of people who were either totally incompetent, crooked, or both, IMO, so others will not get the chance to experience what we have. A lot of employees and customers, as well as vendors and suppliers, are going to pay the price for something that did not have to happen, and pretending that it isn't happening won't make it go away, or make it any easier for those that are affected.


Bottom line, I think, is that if Roadtrek were to resurface with new management and running the business like it was when it's great reputation was earned, you would find near unanimous support and happiness here, and likely many other places, not hatred that Roadtrek was back.
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:44 PM   #15
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I suspect-but i do not actually know-that Ecotrek was the downfall for roadtrek.

All those ecotrek replacements plus the constant rewiring of things and money and time spent on the ecotrek -gu and inverter system just cost to much wasted money.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:56 PM   #16
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The real funsuckers on any Roadtrek related post are those that only drone on about how much they hate Roadtrek products and management. Lighten up and name one thing you appreciate about Roadtrek or maybe even a slightly positive post at least. Here, Iíll start. My 2013 Roadtrek RS has been a great camper van. A few issues, but nothing different than I read about most other brands.

As a fellow 2013 RS owner, I hear ya. My take is that most of the fun sucking is just lingering frustration and anger toward RTís management, rooted in overzealous marketing claims pushing products with known design flaws. For those of us who are enjoying our RTs and just trying to glean knowledge from this great forum, the repetition does get tiring. For others itís either entertainment or news, so we just have to put up with it. Arlo out - back to lurking.
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As a fellow 2013 RS owner, I hear ya. My take is that most of the fun sucking is just lingering frustration and anger toward RTís management, rooted in overzealous marketing claims pushing products with known design flaws. For those of us who are enjoying our RTs and just trying to glean knowledge from this great forum, the repetition does get tiring. For others itís either entertainment or news, so we just have to put up with it. Arlo out - back to lurking.
With the old management gone and the future in doubt and maybe some decent support from KS2 for the Ecotreks if they are no longer in production for RT, it is probably time to look ahead and stop rehashing the past issues with Erwin Hymer NA. Maybe there will be criminal charges, maybe we will find out what really happened, maybe someone will rescue the RT brand and bring it back the way it used to be, and maybe not any of these. The current owners have vans that can be serviced one way or another but it may cost some money that they didnít plan on needing. Life goes on and not much value in worrying too much about the things you canít control. At least that is the way I look at it. We still have our 08 RS for sale and it will be interesting to see what price we end up getting for it...
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My impression is that in the last year or so, Roadtrek got the Ecotrek fairly reliable - that is the batteries, alternator charging, bms and inverter. That the issues were more about user understanding properly how to operate the system.

What I haven't heard, is much success with Voltstart working properly. Also, that many owners really don't use it, so they don't know if there systems work correctly or not, or at all.

Is that where we are at?
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My impression is that in the last year or so, Roadtrek got the Ecotrek fairly reliable - that is the batteries, alternator charging, bms and inverter. That the issues were more about user understanding properly how to operate the system.

What I haven't heard, is much success with Voltstart working properly. Also, that many owners really don't use it, so they don't know if there systems work correctly or not, or at all.

Is that where we are at?

That is certainly what it seems to be looking like. According to an owner on the Roadtrek Yahoo board, the Voltstart used an aftermarket remote start as a basis, so maybe now that the inner workings of the Roadtrek system should be available, perhaps someone will be able to come up with a fix for the Voltstart. Pet owners are probably the only ones that really care much about if the Voltstart works reliably or not, but that is still quite few people, as many of them bought the Roadtrek system just so the pets could be safe when left in the van.
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I welcome any reasonable (not lies, bs etc.) person that wants to join and VENT here concerning roadtrek. I welcome you.

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