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Old 05-16-2018, 06:22 PM   #1
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Default Bicycle rack conundrum... Continued.

My RS Adventurous is on the Mercedes Benz 3500 chassis, 1 ton, with a 170 inch wheelbase.... I was looking for a swing away bicycle rack..and discovered after a long conversation with Yakima that they don't recommend it due to the very long wheelbase on my van....

I've called Thule this morning and am waiting for an official reponse....the representative on the phone said something about a distance limitation.... BUT, she was going to discuss with their technical support team....

The reason I want the swing away is for easy access to the rear doors and the ability to move the bicycles to the side whenever we're sleeping in the van....

The rear doors are the "emergency exit"... I'm not going to block the rear doors... no matter what anyone says... they're there for a reason...

Yakima said..the distance between the front and rear of the vehicle and the geometry of the 170 inch wheelbase puts a too much pressure on the sleeve that goes into the 2 inch receiver on our vehicle...it would wind up bending the sleeve and metal fatigue..or we could easily lose the cycles if the straps sheared off under the strain of the vehicle dynamics... either situation seems very unappealing.....

I'll let you know what Thule says.... should be interesting.

Of course I see many people who purchased and installed bicycle racks on their RVs all the time...the person at Yakima said...they just don't know and it's a gray area... not too much is talked about.. with this .... however, they have had a number of cases where the rack failed and it's always on the 170 inch wheelbase.....

Please be careful and aware ......I won't risk my safety and others for the sake of taking my bicycles along.. might as well just rent some wherever we go.... much easier.....
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A heck of a lot of rv's do not have back doors, the additional risk with no back door is ridiculously low.

I don't really understand what the hitch has to do with wheelbase length. Seems like 'their' rack failed, not the hitch.

A year ago I purchased a folding ebike and made a platform for a Stowaway II hitch frame, so I could use the backdoors - 05/04 Roadtrek 190P. This year a full size ebike, mountain bike. I just finished making the new carrier for the Stowaway 2 hitch frame. This solution is also noticeably less costly. The folding bike had protection with a cover, and the full size bike will too. It is all ready to roll out the driveway.

Hopefully you'll find a good solution.

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A heck of a lot of rv's do not have back doors, the additional risk with no back door is ridiculously low.

I don't really understand what the hitch has to do with wheelbase length. Seems like 'their' rack failed, not the hitch.

A year ago I purchased a folding ebike and made a platform for a Stowaway II hitch frame, so I could use the backdoors - 05/04 Roadtrek 190P. This year a full size ebike, mountain bike. I just finished making the new carrier for the Stowaway 2 hitch frame. This solution is also noticeably less costly. The folding bike had protection with a cover, and the full size bike will too. It is all ready to roll out the driveway.

Hopefully you'll find a good solution.

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[I don't really understand what the hitch has to do with wheelbase length.


I'm not an engineer... but, the Yakima folks said... it's a physics thing...

Hey, their in the business of selling product... you bet I was surprised when they talked me out of it. Turning down a $500 plus sale is not something I would expect ...unless they had a very compelling reason.


I'll post something if I find out...
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[I don't really understand what the hitch has to do with wheelbase length.





I'm not an engineer... but, the Yakima folks said... it's a physics thing...



Hey, their in the business of selling product... you bet I was surprised when they talked me out of it. Turning down a $500 plus sale is not something I would expect ...unless they had a very compelling reason.





I'll post something if I find out...

Unfortunately it is an issue....I went thru this.........too much bounce to put it simply. May fail the rack. I was told it is fine on a 144 WB so I lucked out. Doesn't mean a failure will occur but you will not find the big rack companies telling you it is ok.

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Swing away rack:

https://www.modernbike.com/rockymoun...k-2-bike-black

Rack where door can be opened with bike on door:

Bike carriers for Van conversions : Sprinter > 06/2006
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Yes but the manufacturers say due to the wheel to back of rack is too great on a 170 WB and could break the rack.


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I did look at this rack... did you notice how HIGH the rack is mounted on the back of the Sprinter.... the vehicle is almost 10 feet tall... and the rack is about 4 1/2 feet off the ground... that's the base of the platform... my bikes weigh over 30 pounds... not getting any younger...so, it requires you to lift the bicycles completely over your head and don't know how I would attach that to the arms... on the rack
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I did look at this rack... did you notice how HIGH the rack is mounted on the back of the Sprinter.... the vehicle is almost 10 feet tall... and the rack is about 4 1/2 feet off the ground... that's the base of the platform... my bikes weigh over 30 pounds... not getting any younger...so, it requires you to lift the bicycles completely over your head and don't know how I would attach that to the arms... on the rack
I definitely understand. I'm not the tallest person in the world, so it wouldn't work for me. I do like the swing away.
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Unfortunately it is an issue....I went thru this.........too much bounce to put it simply. May fail the rack. I was told it is fine on a 144 WB so I lucked out. Doesn't mean a failure will occur but you will not find the big rack companies telling you it is ok.
The photo shows a Kuat NV which we also use on a 155" WB Chevy. We have traveled a couple of thousand miles carrying two 60 pound bikes on this rack without incident.

Did you have to use a tongue extender to clear the spare tire?
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The Rockymount carrier is interesting. It's the first swing away platform style rack that I've seen.
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