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Old 02-10-2009, 07:54 PM   #11
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Passports aren't that easy to get here! You have to go to a passport office, not just any post office, although some of the PO's have passport offices in the same building. You need to submit several forms of documentation, then wait a couple of months. Chino's is actually even a little bit harder to get since he wasn't born in the US. He needs extra paperwork, so we take care to make sure we renew his each time before it expires.

We always travel with ours now, just in case. Since work makes it difficult for us to plan ahead much in our travels, we decided it was best to always keep them on hand just in case we get short notice of an opportunity to travel out of the country.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:31 AM   #12
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I was under the mistaken impression that most USPS offices could issue them.
Apparently they distribute the application forms but not the passports. Sorry!
BTW, it's just as difficult here, from what I've been told by many friends who've chosen to get them.
I'm going to see what transpires as far as further info in the next week or so, and then probably try
to get a passport in April or May. I just hate to have to deal with 2 government branches, at 2 government levels
to get something I could walk down the street to get (maybe), and that sends me a renewal reminder every 5 years.
Yes, I'm lazy sometimes, and should have renewed my first passport, but in the pre-9/11 world it wasn't an
issue.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:37 PM   #13
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United States passports are good for 10 years. I applied for mine at our county government center, the same place where you apply for driver's license and renewals. There was a collateral benefit. Applying for Social Security benefits can be just as tedious with proof of birth, etc. Since I had a passport, I applied online from home and was notified by letter that I need not bother to send in paperwork like birth certificate because they already had that info from my passport. Hard to believe our government can be that courteous and efficient. I discovered too when I originally applied for my passport I got it a lot quicker than the norm. I suspect the government had a pretty good dossier on my already from my service record.

Four years ago I crossed the border into Toronto from Michigan without showing any proof whatsoever. They just asked our names and a couple of questions. I drove around Lake Superior and re-entered the United States in Minnesota. On approaching the gate the guard said over the loud speaker, "Welcome back, David." Big Brother had my number.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:24 PM   #14
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By way of further update to the Ontario EDL situation (if any still cares ),
I was in phone contact with a representative from the MTO yesterday, and he
said there would be something rolled out in the next month or so.
He suggested it will be available at 9 selected licensing locations around the
province. He said it will cost an additional C$40 to have the citizenship info
added to the standard DL and that after you apply and pay, and prove your citizenship
at one of the licensing locations (there's no Nexus style interview), it'll take 4 weeks for
you to then get the card. Good for land and sea crossings, according to the WHTI.

So, that said, I guess I'll wait another month before jumping on the passport train.

btw, dutchduo1990 : I just reread my reply to your question about getting a passport.
Please accept my apologies, as I sounded a bit upset , no offense intended.
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I'd get an EDL for RV travel across the border but I wonder what would happen if an emergency (medical or other) required that you needed to fly back to Canada. Would you be stuck?
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I'm not sure, although we/I did consider the possibility.
If the emergency were with either of us (health crisis of some sort?), while in the States, I'd like to think they'd
make an exception on compassionate grounds. If not, one of us cold make it back to a border point in 2 days or less
by RV.
If it were an emergency back home, we'd probably be on our own, and I'd expect that.

But, I'm not sure.
If it ever happens, I'll post up my findings.
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We applied for our passports less than two weeks ago, and to our surprise they showed up in our mail box yesterday. It was 11 days from the time we turned in the paperwork at the court house here in Ohio. So it cost us $200.00 for two passports, and they are good for ten years. This is just an FYI for folks out there thinking about the process. It sounds like our neighbors in Canada may have more hassles because it's harder to find places to do it. Good luck
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:46 AM   #18
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My daughter went to the USA by plane on December 29TH 2008 and her mother did not have a passport on December 1st. They picked up the proper forms at the local post office, filled them in and sent the proper paper work by mail and received her passport in seven days. People just make too much fuss about it.
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I'm hoping the up side will be the price, and that not too many people will notice we can only get the EDL
at a few licensing locations. I'd like to think we can control and monitor the border without making safe,
cross border travel, so difficult that it kills our desire to bother.
I check our MTO (Ministry of Transport) website every couple of days waiting for the EDL announcement.

I blame bin Laden.

p.s. It's not about the fuss. It's the principle and the price.
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HAPPY DAYS, the Ontario government announced yesterday the new EDL is now available, if you are a
Canadian citizen, a resident of Ontario, and currently hold a valid Ontario Drivers License (except a standalone
M1 motorcycle license).
It's $40 to upgrade your current DL to an EDL , you have 3 forms that need to be filled out, and need an appointment
at one of 9 MTO locations. You can call Service Ontario to make the appointment, or do it online.
The card has an RFID chip and a machine readable area on the back, like a bar code. There isn't any personal
info embedded in the chip or swipe area, just a code number which can be used by CBP to request your info
from a CBSA database.
Much more info is available at the MTO website.
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/

I called and made an appointment today.
The Service Ontario guy took my info, gave me a day and time, but failed to give me
my confirmation number, so I have to call back tomorrow.

Still a few bugs in the process I guess.
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