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Old 08-31-2018, 05:18 PM   #1
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Cost of registering a B has been brought up in a couple of threads but not really pursued. I would be interested in how it varies state to state.

In Oklahoma, you pay 5% when you purchase of new or used vehicle of a "fair market value". This amount was 4% until last year when it was raised to 5%.

Annually, the cost is only that for a tag which is less than a hundred dollars. So, if you buy something worth $50,000 you pay 5% of that ($2500) up front and then an annual fee of less than $100.

How much do you pay in your state?
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I recently paid $160 to register my Travato in New York State for the next 2 years. There may have been a fee for the new plates when I bought it 2 years ago, but I don’t remember.
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State of California recently raised their license fees. My Hymer Aktiv cost $905 in registration/licensing fees in June of 2018.
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I should clarify my original post. The fees I listed at 5% of the market value are in lieu of sales or use or franchise taxes.

Do New York and California, for example, charge sales tax or other use taxes on vehicular purchases?
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State of California recently raised their license fees. My Hymer Aktiv cost $905 in registration/licensing fees in June of 2018.
Isn't there a referendum on the November state ballot to rescind those increases?
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I should clarify my original post. The fees I listed at 5% of the market value are in lieu of sales or use or franchise taxes.

Do New York and California, for example, charge sales tax or other use taxes on vehicular purchases?
It's a mixed bag and is both complicated and confusing. This is my understanding:

Any state that has a sales tax probably taxes vehicle purchases but IIRC some states effects lower sales taxes on vehicles than their general sales tax.

In most states, the dealer will provide for a temporary permit to drive away without paying sales tax but which become payable to the buyer's state of residence. If the buyer does pay sales tax at the purchase point, he typically gets a credit for this when registering in the state of residence. For example if a 5% tax was paid at the point of purchase when registering the vehicle in the state of residence that has an 8% sales tax, you only pay the residence state 3%. But if the tax rate at the point of purchase is 8% and you register in a state with a 5% tax rate, your taxes are waived but you don't get any credit for the 3% differential.

California is a brutal state, tax-wise. The sales tax approaches 10% in many counties in the state and the selling dealer can't issue a drive away temporary permit and for out-of-state buyers to avoid being hit with sales taxes, the vehicle has to be physically delivered out of the state either by the selling dealer or a common carrier.

Nevada and Arizona (and perhaps other states) waive sales taxes on vehicles purchased from a private party in or out of state. Dealer sales on used vehicles bought by the dealer are taxable,but if merely consigned with the dealer may not be taxable. In some jurisdictions it depends upon whether the dealer is merely warehousing the vehicle for the consignor or whether they are actively engaging in marketing and selling the vehicle on behalf of the consignor.

Nevada (and perhaps other states) permits the value of a trade-in to offset a simultaneous purchase at a dealer. California doesn't.

The tax basis can vary depending on how the RV is built. If the converter buys the chassis, the taxable amount is some function of the builder's sales price. If the owner purchases the chassis himself, titles it, registers it and delivers it to a builder to upfit, for purposes of registration fees, the improvements don't result in incremental sales taxes or registration fees.

With respect to taxes and fees on the RV, the worst state to live in is California. The best state to live in is Oregon which has no sales tax period and charges chump change for a two year registration period.

After reading this over, I'll hazard the guess that this is more than you want to know.
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Over the years, we have purchased two rvs in Texas. We live in Oklahoma. We have to take the vehicle to a tag agent in Oklahoma (they are independent businesses that administer all this for the Oklahoma Tax Commission and there are lots of them (three within five miles of my home for example). The agent has to physically take a look at the VIN number to make sure it is the same as on the documents from the Texas dealer. Then, I pay taxes in Oklahoma and they certify to the State of Texas that it was a transaction with a legitimate resident of Oklahoma, not a Texas resident.

Most states, as I understand it, levy their sales tax on vehicles. Oklahoma has a different system and essentially the net result is a five percent tax which is declared an excise tax for four percent and last year one additional percent was added and declared NOT A NEW TAX! Simply the elimination of part of an exemption from sales tax. In other words, the legislature and governor didn't have the courage to increase the tax so they increased it from four to five (a twenty-five percent increase) and declared it NOT A NEW TAX. Talk about a bunch of baloney.

When you add the sales or excise tax back to the cost of a new or used RV in most states, I bet you are really adding anywhere from four to ten percent to the true cost of the purchase, depending on the state.

I was a partner in two really successful businesses in California for many years but sold them mainly because of the income tax levied on out of state investors in small businesses. It was essentially double the income tax in my home state of Oklahoma and I reinvested the sales proceeds here where taxes gave me the equivalent of a 5% increase in profits. I love California and travel their often and have for forty years but it is an expensive state to do business.
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Over the years, we have purchased two rvs in Texas. We live in Oklahoma. We have to take the vehicle to a tag agent in Oklahoma (they are independent businesses that administer all this for the Oklahoma Tax Commission and there are lots of them (three within five miles of my home for example). The agent has to physically take a look at the VIN number to make sure it is the same as on the documents from the Texas dealer. Then, I pay taxes in Oklahoma and they certify to the State of Texas that it was a transaction with a legitimate resident of Oklahoma, not a Texas resident.

Most states, as I understand it, levy their sales tax on vehicles. Oklahoma has a different system and essentially the net result is a five percent tax which is declared an excise tax for four percent and last year one additional percent was added and declared NOT A NEW TAX! Simply the elimination of part of an exemption from sales tax. In other words, the legislature and governor didn't have the courage to increase the tax so they increased it from four to five (a twenty-five percent increase) and declared it NOT A NEW TAX. Talk about a bunch of baloney.

When you add the sales or excise tax back to the cost of a new or used RV in most states, I bet you are really adding anywhere from four to ten percent to the true cost of the purchase, depending on the state.

I was a partner in two really successful businesses in California for many years but sold them mainly because of the income tax levied on out of state investors in small businesses. It was essentially double the income tax in my home state of Oklahoma and I reinvested the sales proceeds here where taxes gave me the equivalent of a 5% increase in profits. I love California and travel their often and have for forty years but it is an expensive state to do business.


You donít want to register in California.
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You donít want to register in California.
Well, we live in California and have no choice but to register here. Registration last year was less than $200 on a 14-year old LTV.

I see a fair number of large Class As with Oregon plates here. Some are most likely actually from Oregon, but I suspect a fair number are applying some kind of dodge to save taxes.
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Well, we live in California and have no choice but to register here. Registration last year was less than $200 on a 14-year old LTV.

I see a fair number of large Class As with Oregon plates here. Some are most likely actually from Oregon, but I suspect a fair number are applying some kind of dodge to save taxes.
I've got one word for this...."scofflaws"..... look, we're all paying for the road maintenance of the states we live in.....IF you actually know someone who's this...call it in and report it especially if they happen to be your next door neighbor living there for years.... it's illegal and is forcing people like you and me to pay more for HIGHER taxes..... obnoxious.

Sooner or later... something is going to happen.... accident or something else....and when they are caught....it will be unpleasant....

Just think if everyone did that.... the roads would be in terrible shape worse than their present condition... who's paying for all this.?
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