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Old 02-17-2019, 07:25 PM   #11
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WARNING: A great many well-informed people consider the above well-known website to be total, absolute nonsense.

This is the guy who believes that you should use motorcycle oil in your Sprinter. Beware!
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This is our first MB Sprinter and about to go on a longish trip with it.

I was wondering about topping up oil en route if that should be needed - though I doubt that it will - I would guess that our round trip would be maybe 4000 miles or so.

Never did have to add any oil in our GMC diesel between oi changes and imagine the MB will be similar - hope so anyway.

However - just in case, I looked at the manual today and the only reference it gave for the oil was a bunch of Mercedes Specs!

Today, in a fairly well stocked local automotive store and - not surprisingly I guess, none of their diesel oils made any mention of the Mercedes Spec numbers.

I plan to take the Sprinter to MB for all regular servicing even though it may cost more, if only to try ensure no future arguments over any warranty issues.

But I'm wondering what to do if I need to add oil during someplace our trips?

Is it important enough that I should go to a MB dealer in advance and buy a quart or two to carry in the van?

If not important - what regularly available oil to buy? Any suggestions?

I'm not sure if perhaps MB use only synthetics - if so is it important to stick to synthetics when topping up?

Thx! ............. Brian.
My experience from owning a 07 Sprinter based class C:

Be sure to only check the oil when the engine is fully warmed up - if you fill it when cold it will be overfull when hot and a warning light will come on.

It is important to use only the specified low ash oil and in the US that is pretty much limited to specific varieties of Mobile 1 and Valvoline full synthetic. The main result of using the incorrect oil is potential clogging of your particulate filter. ($$$$ repair)

You generally cannot buy the correct oil at Wal-Mart or many auto supply stores. The cheapest source seems to be at NAPA during the sales they regularly run for around $5 per quart. At a Merc dealer you are likely to pay well in excess of $10 per quart. As you use about 13 quarts it pays to get a decent price.

Our rig did not use excessive oil but I often had to add a quart between changes. You definitely want to carry a quart or two on a trip.

You do not want to let just any garage change your oil as they are often clueless concerning Sprinter specifics. A common problem is that they will jack the rear end using the center differential. This mistake can cost four figure repairs. Your manual shows proper jacking points and you will often need to educate the garage. They will often insist that other than specified grades of oil can be used. Many owners (as I did) change their own oil so that they know it is done properly.

None of this is rocket science but you should take the time to learn the details.
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No lifting on the center of a rear drive axle is really unusual unless they are independent rear suspension, from what I have seen. Do the rear housings actually bend of does it collapse the center section?
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My understanding is that the thin tube design design means that it is structurally inadequate for lifting in the center. Mercedes does a number of things differently and garages tend to assume they can treat it just like a ford or chevy chassis.
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I would be more concerned about the def. We had to fill up the def tank after only 2000 km of a 5000 km trip. It may not have been full from the dealer or may have burned more as a new vehicle.
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I would be more concerned about the def. We had to fill up the def tank after only 2000 km of a 5000 km trip. It may not have been full from the dealer or may have burned more as a new vehicle.
True. But, all DEF fluid is the same, and can be found anywhere. It can even be pumped at truck stops.
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This is our first MB Sprinter and about to go on a longish trip with it.

I was wondering about topping up oil en route if that should be needed - though I doubt that it will - I would guess that our round trip would be maybe 4000 miles or so.

Never did have to add any oil in our GMC diesel between oi changes and imagine the MB will be similar - hope so anyway.

However - just in case, I looked at the manual today and the only reference it gave for the oil was a bunch of Mercedes Specs!

Today, in a fairly well stocked local automotive store and - not surprisingly I guess, none of their diesel oils made any mention of the Mercedes Spec numbers.

I plan to take the Sprinter to MB for all regular servicing even though it may cost more, if only to try ensure no future arguments over any warranty issues.

But I'm wondering what to do if I need to add oil during someplace our trips?

Is it important enough that I should go to a MB dealer in advance and buy a quart or two to carry in the van?

If not important - what regularly available oil to buy? Any suggestions?

I'm not sure if perhaps MB use only synthetics - if so is it important to stick to synthetics when topping up?

Thx! ............. Brian.
I always used Mobil 1 5w30 ESP Formula in my VW TDI and it performed admirably. If you do your own oil changes, it'd be best to order it by the case online from Amazon or any reputable seller. You'll get the best price that way and you'll always have it on hand. The V6 takes 14 quarts!
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True. But, all DEF fluid is the same, and can be found anywhere. It can even be pumped at truck stops.
On one of my many Sprinter service visits one of the stored codes was def out of spec. They tested it with a test strip and confirmed what the computer was telling them.

They did not try to sell me anything , i was told to just run it through and they of course they recommended Mercedes fluid in the future. The service advisor also mentioned they had no known problems with peak adblue def.

It just so happens I had used Wal-Mart brand def before that service visit. I stopped using it and switched back to adblue and the problem was gone. It was also retested on a follow up visit and was in spec. So maybe all def is not created equal.
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On one of my many Sprinter service visits one of the stored codes was def out of spec. They tested it with a test strip and confirmed what the computer was telling them.

They did not try to sell me anything , i was told to just run it through and they of course they recommended Mercedes fluid in the future. The service advisor also mentioned they had no known problems with peak adblue def.

It just so happens I had used Wal-Mart brand def before that service visit. I stopped using it and switched back to adblue and the problem was gone. It was also retested on a follow up visit and was in spec. So maybe all def is not created equal.
Folks have reported cases in which they have found bottles of DEF fluid (and other commodities) that have been emptied and refilled with water and then returned to WalMart (probably not unique to them).

Are you certain that the product you bought was factory sealed?

Obviously, anything can happen. But there is a well-defined spec for DEF, and it is not difficult to produce properly. I would be REALLY surprised if anyone went to the trouble of setting up a production facility that did not meet the spec. But, who knows? That said, I would expect WalMart to be the LAST place to carry counterfeit fluids. They have huge leverage with legitimate suppliers, and have a lot to lose by cutting corners. The behavior of their customers is another matter, though.

Also, DEF fluid has a shelf-life, although it is several years if properly stored.
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It was absolutely factory sealed, It could have been outdated I did not check that.
The service advisor at the local dealer only deals with sprinters and has been my only contact there since 2013. His opinion was use mercedes fluid but he also offered he had not seen any problems with adblue. He is not a fan of no-name fluids but that is to be expected.

As you know these emission systems are so finicky and adblue is so cheap I just stuck with it from then on. Below is what was on my receipt...

P2BA900 The emisson limit for the NOx concentratlon has been
exceeded (AdBlue® quality is too low).
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