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Old 07-10-2015, 03:04 PM   #1
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Is it just me or are the European Class B manufacturers light years ahead of the North American manufacturers when it comes to interior design and layout?

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Old 07-10-2015, 05:53 PM   #2
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I like the design innovations we see in/on European RV's.

The dinette seat to bed conversion in the video you linked to is great. The way the rear bed moves out of the way is very clever too.
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So many neat ideas. Love the drawer type refer. That would be a cool addition to the Safari Condo - have one of the refrigerators the standard type and the second one this drawer type for cold drinks.

Probably the best front folding bed I've ever seen. Love how they have a dedicated mattress cushion instead of re-using the seating surface for the bed.
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I hope manufacturers like Westfalia, Hymer Car and Adria come to North America.

It will force the North American companies to up their interior design game. Too many of them are stuck with the dated wood cabinets and cheap looking fiberglass and plastic washrooms.

The closest company in NA to capture the Euro flair for design is Safari Condo.
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I do find it bit frustrating to see European RVs and think "why not here?" North American manufacturers that come closest are Safari Condo, Advanced and some other custom ones.

European RV manufacturers are definitely ahead on the look - NO floral print curtains and upholstery, cherry frame and panel cabinets, painted swirls and swoops on the body, for them. But look is not some separate add-on idea or "style"; it is part of design.

It is how they use the space. European RVs are designed and built like their boats - every bit of space is thought out in detail. No wasted space. All the storage thought out. Smooth surfaces easy to clean, simple. Just check out Westfalia and the entire line of Hymer (not just the HymerCar portion), Carthago, and Adria.

I do hope Hymer (and others) open up the North American market, just like European auto manufacturers (BMW, VW, MB, Audi) and sailboat manufacturers (Beneteau with a factory in SC, Bavaria, Jeanneau,etc) have done.
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Here's a look at the Adria Twin Series.

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Airstream brought the James Cook Westfalia model over and converted to American standards a decade ago. It lasted about 2 years. It was rather innovative at the time with European design. I think of it as the grass is greener syndrome until you have to actually shell out cash. The markets are different is all. Our RV use is different too.

I'm satisfied with my American made Class B. I'd put it up against any European converter for design, innovation and capabilities. Temporarily I feel cutting edge but there will soon be some more stuff coming from Advanced RV that will knock your socks off.
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But Advanced RV is more of a custom manufacturer with high end pricing, is it not?

I think a more fair comparison in terms of build quality, pricing and design between the previously mentioned Euro and NA manufacturers would be with the likes of Roadtrek, Winnebago and Pleasure Way.
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I would not say that the Euro vans are better based on advanced technology alone, in fact I would say that is a minor part of it, at least for me.

I would put the advantages more in the practical use of things, be it space, equipment, floorplan, etc, without a lot of splash or pretentiousness. They just make it all work together better.
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In terms of interior design and layout I think they are indeed light years ahead of us. Value for money is also much better due to how popular motorhomes are and how much competition exists in Europe. If you want to buy a new van conversion you have ~15 manufacturers to choose from.

I watch the video review of every single van conversion and coach build that comes out of Europe. One thing that is different is the higher end manufacturers will model each and every piece that goes into a build in CAD to integrate and match the van. It's almost like they worked directly with the Fiat designers. It's simply a more sophisticated design and build than a Roadtrek or even Advanced RV.

Technology is not necessarily superior, but they do have more product manufacturers that produce items that are superior to what we have in the U.S. like Thetford, Smev, Dometic, Seitz, Truma, RIB, etc.
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