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Old 11-20-2017, 11:50 PM   #1
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Default Filling propane tank?

As an RV'er for the last 40 odd years, here is a question I am embarrassed to ask!

I have always had - and still have - travel trailers, (apart from a VW Westie many many years ago). Now thinking seriously about switching to a class "B" for our remaining RV years!

Usually, I have had 20# propane bottles very easily filled or exchanged. At present, our Airstream Classic 30 has 30# bottles that I cannot exchange (they are aluminum) but are still very easy to get filled.

But I know zip about filling propane tanks that are fixed in the RV. Can all? most? places that fill removable bottles also deal with these or do you need to find places with special equipment?

Is it a problem at all?


Thanks (sorry for the rather basic question!) ........... Brian.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:08 AM   #2
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Any propane stations can fill a fixed tank underneath a Class B.

The fittings are standard and universal.

But they don't always have a kid there who knows how to (or have experience in) climbing under the rig to attach the hose and open the vent.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:13 AM   #3
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Any propane stations can fill a fixed tank underneath a Class B.

The fittings are standard and universal.

But they don't always have a kid there who knows how to (or have experience in) climbing under the rig to attach the hose and open the vent.


Hi BBQ (appropriate "nickname" for this subject!)


Thanks for the quick reply! That is encouraging, I had no idea! I'm sure I should have no problem showing anyone where the hose connection and vent would be. I was just concerned that places able to fill "loose" bottles might not necessarily be able to deal with fixed tanks as they generally seem to fill using weigh scales!

Thanks again ............. Brian.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:32 AM   #4
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Usually, I have had 20# propane bottles very easily filled or exchanged. At present, our Airstream Classic 30 has 30# bottles that I cannot exchange (they are aluminum) but are still very easy to get filled.
If you go to a Propane dealer you might find that they can only fill your tank from their trucks and the trucks leave on their routes early. So you have to get there before they leave. Prices and taxes are all over the place

Flying J's can give you Propane on the road. Most U-Haul rental places can fill them also. Some gas stations have Propane.

If you fill during the summer you might be getting Butane rather than Propane and if you go to a cold place with Butane it will not boil and your heater will not work....

Propane is great stuff but I don't like it..... I think it is a pain in the A.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:39 AM   #5
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If you go to a Propane dealer you might find that they can only fill your tank from their trucks and the trucks leave on their routes early. So you have to get there before they leave. Prices and taxes are all over the place

Flying J's can give you Propane on the road. Most U-Haul rental places can fill them also. Some gas stations have Propane.

If you fill during the summer you might be getting Butane rather than Propane and if you go to a cold place with Butane it will not boil and your heater will not work....

Propane is great stuff but I don't like it..... I think it is a pain in the A.

Hey, Thanks DC!

We live in Canada but a good part of our traveling is in the US and I am a big fan of FJ, so that is good to know!

I had no idea about the butane / propane thing -I always assumed gas stations always sold propane.

Living in Canada, I know that our temperatures here get cold enough at times that in winter, we could just pour butane out of a cig.lighter and it would remain in liquid state!

Thx .... Brian

(PS -I rather like propane! Each to his own!)
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Tractors Supply stores have some of the best prices on propane refill.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:07 AM   #7
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Tractors Supply stores have some of the best prices on propane refill.
I get a LOT of loose propane tanks refilled - mostly for my homebrew beer hobby!

We do have a TSC not far from where we live, but the best prices I have found is from a much closer COSTCO store - they will not fill our 30# US-made
alum. tanks for our Airstream trailer though.

Sometimes I can find a place that will fill them here in Canada (they are not supposed to as they are supposed to have a CSA stamp instead of, or in addition to a DOT stamp and ours are just DOT!)

Usually, I just get them filled when we travel south, as we do often, and so it is not a problem!

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Any propane stations can fill a fixed tank underneath a Class B. ...
It depends on the jurisdiction. If you are talking about America, maybe. But get into Canada and it partially depends on the prevailing rules in each province, and whether heavy-handed regulation has made fixed-tank filling economically unsupportable as a business activity.

This news article provides a good example. In Nova Scotia, nobody is going to install $15,000 worth of specialized equipment so that they can do ~$10 to $20 RV and camper van fill-ups - that's bat sh** crazy. So when the original grandfathered equipment eventually fails due to old age, each servicer simply drops out of the market.

Earlier this year I talked with an RV sales outfit in NS and confirmed that conditions have not yet changed. They were selling new trailers and motorhomes with integrated tanks, but they themselves could not fill those tanks. And when buyers would ask, "How do I get it filled, then?" the reply would be, "Well, you're on your own for that."
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It depends on the jurisdiction. If you are talking about America, maybe. But get into Canada and it partially depends on the prevailing rules in each province, and whether heavy-handed regulation has made fixed-tank filling economically unsupportable as a business activity.

This news article provides a good example. In Nova Scotia, nobody is going to install $15,000 worth of specialized equipment so that they can do ~$10 to $20 RV and camper van fill-ups - that's bat sh** crazy. So when the original grandfathered equipment eventually fails due to old age, each servicer simply drops out of the market.

Earlier this year I talked with an RV sales outfit in NS and confirmed that conditions have not yet changed. They were selling new trailers and motorhomes with integrated tanks, but they themselves could not fill those tanks. And when buyers would ask, "How do I get it filled, then?" the reply would be, "Well, you're on your own for that."

Thanks for the heads up.

Some RVers have reported difficulty in finding propane stations in certain areas of the USA. Maybe this is the reason too?



ps. (unrelated) in Canada it is illegal to transfer propane from vehicle to vehicle. Only from vehicle to stationary tanks, and vice versa. There was a big fire/explosion in Toronto a few years back because the worker was circumventing the rules and blew himself up.
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It depends on the jurisdiction. If you are talking about America, maybe. But get into Canada and it partially depends on the prevailing rules in each province, "
Well, that is interesting - looks as though I should do a bit more checking around my home (just a few miles west of Toronto).

Any Ontario residents reading this that might be able to comment?

Thx ------ Brian
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