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Old 09-08-2014, 08:01 PM   #1
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In about 2 weeks we're off on a little snowbirding experiment to see what that's all about. The plan is to hit WA state by the end of the month and go from there to the east coast about 3 months later. Cant say exactly the route we will travel as the weather will probably dictate the way. I feel the Queen B is as ready as can be, cant say what will happen after we leave the house but we are prepared hopefully. Our back up plan in case we don't fit in with so many people and congested areas will be to leave the rig outside and fly back home (hope not). We will have house sitters here so the place will stay occupied and warm through the winter. The plan is drive "straight through" to about Williams lake area (central B.C.) due to weather conditions and then relax from there southbound. Don't know if we will have the capability to keep up on the forum here but will look into that later. This will be my 20th trip on the highway but my first trip in a class B, what could possibly go wrong. Safe travel boys and we'll see you down the trail.
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By October you might as well plan on dropping down to southern Utah or Arizona and head east through New Mexico, Texas and the rest of the southern states. Campgrounds in the north usually close up by mid October and I doubt you can get east soon enough to enjoy the fall leaf colors in the northern Midwest and New England forests. Glacier, Yellowstone, and Rocky Mountain will be pretty much closed up by October 1. Lower 48 snow birders head for Florida, Arizona and very south Texas.
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:32 AM   #3
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If your course will be adjusted according to the weather you'll probably be OK. Common sense will be your guide.
Were you planning on crossing the lower 48 high ( I-94, I-90, I-80) mid (I-70 I-40) or low ( I-20 I-10) ?
They all are passable in September/October but deteriorate based on weather. The NPS places usually stay open until they can't guarantee access to paid facilties but they may stay open even when the typical amenities aren't available. Water system access and freezing are usually the first casualties.
If it were me (as you), I'd head south and hang a left at WA.
Then play it by ear.....you can always head farther south, as required.
Have fun and try to keep in touch.
We're thinking about heading out west along your proposed route east.
Who knows, we may cross paths out there somewhere......
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Old 09-09-2014, 03:43 AM   #4
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When we get done visiting family in Wa, the plan is to head to San Fran via High way 101 to see some really big trees. Have to see Vegas so I can lose all my money and return home sooner than expected! After Vegas, depending on the time of year, we may stay on the southern coast and I will start at the Texas border and eat my way east. BBQ, Crawdads, Gumbo, and whatever the southern states are known for that I have never eaten. Since we have never stayed in a full service campground with either motorhome I would like to try that once to say I have! If weather holds after Vegas we will head to Yellowstone and then east to all Northern states, maybe stop in Wisconsin and do a little deer hunting there, there are some big Whitetail deer there. Would be more than happy to have a cocktail with anyone here! Mike, do you have dates and places marked out or are you flipping coins like we're about to?
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We generally tend towards coin flipping once we get out of the driveway. We had planned to check out Sleeping Bear Dunes and Pictured Rocks in MI before heading west towards the Dakotas and beyond. After that, the weather will choose our GPS location north/south. We did most of the major NPS parks along the eastern side of the Rockies 3 years ago, starting at GNP and ending at GCSR. I'd like to do something similar before year's end. Adding some and skipping some probably.
I expect our biggest challenge will be getting out of the driveway. After that, it's most often finding good coffee and free wifi, as we don't do "data" on our phones. We can usually be reached via this forum when we're mobile and have wifi. Only takes a second to check for PMs.
I'd like to get started soon. I do have some odds and ends to resolve before departure. What's your ETA to WA?

Vegas is great for buffets, Yellowstone and the drive south towards Jackson WY is all scenery and bisons, and the PCH 101 can be all about patience if you want to see anything. It was foggy for a good stretch in '09 when we drove it. Started in Pelosi-land (San Fran) and headed south before noon.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:30 PM   #6
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Coffee is just OK and drinkable at McDonalds and the wifi is probably the most consistent across chains. McDonalds are everywhere on the freeways and in almost any size town of 5,000 or more. As much as I am a foodie, I still succumb to McDonalds for that known consistency and reliability in being there.

Am I to assume most of your activity will be after mid October? The places in the north you are mentioning will be closed up for camping. The commercial campgrounds shut down in the north, The state parks stay open but not for camping. They lock the bathrooms, shut off the water, shut off electricity, gather up the picnic tables and close off the campgrounds. If they can they may leave a section open for winter primitive camping. Many of the national forests and state forests simply close their gate. Last year we planned to stop in the Black Hills/Mt. Rushmore on October 2 and encountered this. The weather was fine when we arrived but we ended up in a KOA in Rapid City that was closing mid-October. It was the only place open. We left the next morning and missed the two feet of snow that dumped on the Black Hills.

I didn't camp but stayed in an unheated cabin at Yellowstone in early September 1993 the weekend after Labor Day. It snowed and got down to 18 degrees F. That is not unusual. Glacier NP is already shut down for camping (mid September).

Am I to assume mostly boondocking?
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:13 PM   #7
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Just a wild guess on ETA in WA will be Sept 25. The more we look at routes, it looks like it will be the southern states that will get all our money! Of course this will depend on the family visit length in Washington state.

David, you are correct. Most of our travels will be starting in Oct., with hwy 101 southbound being first. As far as boondocking goes, we honestly camp that way every time. The way that we do things, our class b motorhome could be called a class b motortent. We seem to use it the way we would if we went back to tent camping, we have always done it this way. I don't comment too much on the discussions of some of the features of the newer B's due to the fact that I have no good input on many of the features of the rigs. As I stated earlier, I wouldn't mind trying one of the full hook up campgrounds, instead of boiling our coffee on the Coleman, we can push the button ( it wont be near as good). BTW... you can camp in a class b in temps below 5 degrees!
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I guess what I am getting at is you might find campgrounds closed of all kinds in the north leaving you with Walmarts and such for overnights even if you boondock or desire where the tent campers go. The Rocky Mountain passes could be iffy after mid-October. We have hit snow in the passed in mid-September in Colorado. I would strongly recommend weaving your way across southern Utah (one of my favorite areas) then dipping down to New Mexico and Texas. The north rim of the Grand Canyon could be closed by the time you get there.

If you want real, local caught shrimp go down to South Padre Island, TX. Anywhere else and you are probably getting imported. There are many inexpensive restaurants there. If you want crawfish and Cajun my favorite area is near Lafayette, LA. Strongly recommend Shuck's in Abbeville, Prejean's in Carencro (north Lafayette) and Gator Cove in Lafayette. You can boondock in the Prejean's parking lot and have a fantastic breakfast there (done it). By true winter you probably would not want to go up the east coast any further than Washington, DC. Even DC has been having some pretty rough and snowy winters lately.

If you want to try full hookups sometimes for a change of pace, convenience and proximity as an excuse, Las Vegas and New Orleans would be my choices.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:51 PM   #9
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Thanks for the great info David. Keep it coming!
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:39 PM   #10
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Welp, the north route is coming to pass...

Glacier NP Sun road closed by winter weather - record lows
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