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Old 01-23-2018, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default I think I found that unicorn I was chasing...

You were all so helpful to me this week, I wanted to post an update on my search, very exciting news... Recap, hunting for the perfect Class B... Because I have kids (one of whom is a 12 year old son who is likely not gung ho to share a bed with his mom), finding the right sleeping configuration as well as interior layout is the challenge.

I really love the Hymer Aktiv 2.0 and felt the extra platform bed across the dinette and front seats would work for my son...

Well, new information (at least to me). The loft edition (Westfalia and Hymer Aktiv 2.0 had a baby) is available for order.

Check out 13.49 on this video:

I am thrilled . It is perfect for me. While I don't like the idea of being one of the first to order a brand new model, I think it is really the best solution for me and I am super excited. The bed in the loft is 56" x 80"! Otherwise the same layout. I'm testing driving a non-loft version on Thursday and getting ready to place an order.

Press release on Hymer website (not sure why I didn't see it since I've been on there website multiple times recently):
Hymer Aktiv 2.0 Loft Edition Awarded Best in Show by RV Pro for 2018 - Go Hymer
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:08 PM   #2
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Good luck for you and your son with that camper van. We had a VW Vanagon Westfalia with the pop-up loft bed for 20 years and it seems Hymer is channeling Westy vibes with that loft bed.
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:48 AM   #3
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During times when Westfalia was popular the competitor was Sportsmobile with pup-up roof, not tilted. We liked our 2 Westfalias a lot except one issue, closing the roof with wet fabric after rain fabric. It was not a big issue because we could dry it out at home. As far as I know Sportsmobile – Penthouse has vinyl coated fabric, which sheds water well. I would ask Hymer what type of fabric they will be using, easy to dry or not.

I wouldn’t worry of being knew, the concept of pop top is well proven in EU.
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:34 AM   #4
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That looks like a perfect van for small family.


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Old 01-24-2018, 04:24 AM   #5
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I saw that you caught it on Facebook today.

Definitely Hymer has been doing these pop-tops in Europe for many many years, and other than that, it is the same Activ that has been out here for a couple years now. Most of the bugs have been worked out.

Next you need to decide which of the options you need and can afford. AGMs or Lithiums? Voltstart? Solar? It comes with the underhood generator standard and the Truma Combi for heat and hot water.
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Thanks all...

GeorgeRa, good point. I will get more info.

Mumkin, I am finding the Facebook page quite helpful! Definitely a couple of horror show stories over there and I feel truly terrible for the owners that drew the short stick. But it was comforting to read about all the people who have encountered zero to minimal problems. I know I want solar but I haven't had a chance to ask yet whether that is a possibility with the pop-top. I am supposing that there isn't a lot of extra space up there. The truma and underhood generator, very happy about that. The lithium and VS... ugh - would rather not but fearful of hurting resale if I don't. I'd rather not spend the extra money for something that could be problematic, but who knows what the future holds. What if in 3 or 4 years I want to sell - I'm still under warranty which would be appealing to a buyer. By then maybe lithium seems like an advantage rather than its dicey self in this current moment? It's a struggle knowing the right way to proceed but I am leaning toward the fully optioned lithium VS route.

I just could not believe my eyes when I saw that pop-up on the Aktiv 2.0. -- In the thread the other day BBQ had posted a picture of the pop-top and I thought wistfully how nice that would be. Two days later in lands in my lap. Shazam!
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I'm another past owner of a Westfalia - way back in the seventies when our two daughters were young kids! One slept up top and the younger one slept in a hammock that installed across the two front seats. It worked fine.

I really liked that little VW van - and I suppose it is one of the reasons why I am now thinking of going back to a van!

If four of us could happily co-exist in the VW, surely now two of us can camp in a larger one with many more amenities! Mind you we did have a nice "add a room" tent that hooked up to the VW and considerably increased our living space. It had a "boot" that coupled it to teh van. You could drive away and leave the tent behind - a great way to reserve the site and store stuff.

Best of luck with your unicorn!

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Personlly I don't think not having the lithium/voltstart will hurt you at all. There are just as many people who (like me) prefer to avoid them. Right now a big question is what will be the cost when your X year old van needs new lithiums? (and the 6 year warranty is done) Will the prices drop to something more affordable? If you must buy from Hymer, we know that they will be very overpriced as is everything that they sell for replacement parts.

You can buy AGMs easily... and reasonably (relatively speaking). And it is also easy to have a remote starter added if you ever feel that you need one. To me, unless you plan extended boondocking out in the middle of nowhere, I'd save the money. $7000 will buy a lot of gas...

It has been posted that solar will be available along with AC on the pop-top, but early news is not always accurate.
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We had 2 Westfalias, 1977 and 1985 and they become a part of our camping DNA driving us the the future of our current van. Before switching to a larger RV, we used all sleeping places with our family of five, our youngest son on the hammock mounted on the front pillars.

One morning in the Yosemite Valley I was preparing a breakfast. Took a walk around the van and noticed bear footprints on the driver door with slightly open window. Our youngest was sleeping there, we decided that for family of 5 a trailer would be a better choice.

Talking about Yosemite bears, we were riding toward the Mirror Lake from the valley floor, I was pulling the bicycle trailer with 2 oldest and my wife carried the youngest one on the rear seat. Seeing ahead a large bear with a big red tag I stopped abruptly, my wife almost run into the kids in the trailer. We made quick u-eys and a few hundred yards down the hill we run into the ranger, telling him about this bear, he asked – what was the number on the tag.
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Also Australia several B manufacturers here use a pop top
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