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Old 11-27-2009, 05:13 PM   #1
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True Value Hardware has come up with a Junior Size oil-filled heater that is just what Santa can bring for Christmas. It is about 12 x 14 x 4 and max ouput is around 2700 BTU at 700 watts. On sale now at $20! Mine is already at work.

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Old 11-28-2009, 03:24 PM   #2
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I like it.

I was looking at those just last week. They were on sale up here at around $20 also. I missed out and now they're $40+ again. I have a small ceramic heater with a fan that, when you are awake, you hardly notice the noise it makes. However, it seems very noisy in the middle of a quiet night when you are trying to sleep.

I'd like to get one like you have. There are no moving parts to fail.
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:18 PM   #3
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I've been using one of these for about a year now. I chose it specifically because there's no surface that gets hot enough to pose a fire hazard. Works well (and it's silent). Think I bought it at Canadian Tire and I know I paid less than $40.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:21 PM   #4
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I got one at Cdn tire yesterday on sale at $29.99 reg price is $49.99.
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I gotta ask, why?
Why not run your furnace for heat? Fan noise? My wife hates the fan noise, but when there's
snow outside, it does the job pretty well keeping us from freezing.
Does your solar charging system generate 700W of heating capacity?
I'd think it would drain you faster than the sun could replenish.
Just wondering.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:32 AM   #6
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You'd used a heater like this when you're plugged in. Vern might not have a propane furnace.

I have a propane furnace but use an auxiliary heater to save propane. I was using 5lbs of propane a day when it was cold in October.

(Note to clarify) That was while parked. When it is minus 6 you have keep the furnace on. We set it as low as 60F when we were out.

When we were driving everyday we didn't use nearly as much. The dash heater kept us warm and we only needed to run the furnace in late evening and early morning.
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I see. So at a campground, plugged in for example? Boondockers that we are, I hadn't considered that.
We rarely stay anywhere that has water/sewer/electric hookups, so it didn't occur to me. Apologies.
However, doing the "Devil's Advocate" thing,
1 Imperial gallon of water weighs about 10 lbs., I believe.
I am going to assume liquid propane would weigh about the same. (This may be my argument's failing, if incorrect)
5 lbs. of propane would then constitute about 1/2 gallon or about 2.25 litres.
A chart I found online lists propane as costing $0.61/litre as at Dec 1, 2009 (it's actually closer to $0.53 near me today).
http://www2.nrcan.gc.ca/eneene/sources/ ... fuel_e.cfm
So your propane heating cost would be about $1.50/day, assuming you didn't cook or heat water with it too?
So it's still a cheap way to heat when not plugged in?
If Vern doesn't have a propane furnace, could his solar/battery rig run that heater for very long?
I'm still thinking about adding a solar powered "off the grid" solution to our RT sometime.
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I have something similar in my bedroom (no central heating ). Be warned mine makes lots of clicking noises so its hard to sleep if you leave it on!
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..........If Vern doesn't have a propane furnace, could his solar/battery rig run that heater for long?...........
Short answer: NO 700 watts divided by 12 volts divided by 90% inverter inefficiency equal 65 amp hrs. Maybe 45 to 50 minutes heating per battery until it is depleted.

Re: the cost - this is in a Class C - I was running off a 20lb BBQ tank because only one place in town had propane and only one staff member was allowed to operate the pump. Packing up to drive to get propane in the RV was hit & miss. It was easier to use and refill the BBQ tank. The BBQ tank lasted 4 days only using it for heating. I figured it was closer to $10 per day for heat during the minus temperature days. (I sometimes overestimate things )

With a 30 amp hookup in a campground I've already paid for 3600 watts of electricity so I doubt using 700 watts for heat would be a problem for them.
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I hear you, about trying to find a propane place with someone who's allowed to safely deliver it.
It can be a hassle. And packing up just to get propane doesn't make sense either. So the 20 lb.
tank only lasts 4 days? That's not so good either.
Like I said, I forgot about the size of the C and that you were in a site with hookups and the
electricity is included in the site price.
Electric heat, it is!!!
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