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Old 09-02-2018, 04:07 AM   #1
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So, to bring everyone up to date on my experience with La Mesa in Port St Lucie, FL.
They had a very interesting 2016 210P with 18,000+ miles on it.. A long scratch on the passenger side probably from a curb. Some stains on the interior soft sides from spills and neglect. I don't think they were from leaks. No significant options other than the Onan. Shower hose had never been hooked up.. The 3rd seat had been taken out and the seat hardware was missing. The original owner had built his own armoire and it was ugly. The window and backdoor screens were missing and the TV was gone. 71 hours on the generator. NO MAINTENANCE RECORDS..
They've had the unit since early May, and just dropped the price from 99,000 to 79,999. I offered 78k. and insisted on a certified inspection with fluid analysis.. I had an NRVIA inspector lined up for Tuesday.
The sales manager refused to reserve the unit for an inspection. He wouldn't "take it off the market" for the 7 days until the fluid analysis can back. Regardless of the fact he could still show the unit as a pending sale.
Sales person was very nice, and spent a bunch of time gooing over the unit with me. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend her. Jessie Wilson.
So i said to the sales manager, "sometimes you just can't get from point A to point B" and left... As much as i'm jonesing for an RV, i feel good about turning him down.
The search continues.......
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:20 AM   #2
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With the lack of records and some odd missing items/stains etc., I think you did good insisting on some time to check it out.

Too bad the sales manager didn't take your offer (which was nearly their asking price on a unit they've had a long time).
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:58 AM   #3
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Pictures look decent. With the Chevy Express warranty still in effect, you should be covered there by GM. You may want to find out the remaining Roadtrek warranty and see if it is transferable. Would that make a difference (along with the inspector) in easing your mind.

Not trying to talk you back into it. Just wondering if the sales manager screwed up by thinking you were stalling and somehow not serious on your offer. I'm really surprised that the sales guy didn't come running after you when you started to walk away.

About the only negative thing I've heard on the 210P's is they don't have a lot of load capacity left being as they are longer and wider than the 190P which I believe rides on the same 3500 chassis. But if you're not loading up 5 people and a lot of gear, maybe that won't matter.

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Rowiebowie,

I believe the warranties are still in effect... The sales manager knew i was serious, it was an all cash offer & i already had an NRVIA inspector lined up for tuesday.

But, my personality doesn't do blind man's bluff..

The load capacity of a 210 versus 190 has been a consideration, but i'm mostly going to be traveling alone, and i plan on towing a 4x6 cargo trailer for all my bread baking (which i do at music festivals) and other extras for long trips... canopies, honda quiet 3000 generator, etc...

Everyone needs to bring something to the party and you don't want to see me near a guitar!!
So, i bring bread...
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if they would have allowed the inspector, i was ready to sign... I'm sure we could have bridged the 2,000 gap between asked and offered.. they've had the damn thing since may...

I'm still interested in the unit... I'm going to send a email to the sales person who was very accommodating, telling her i'm still interested, but the inspection portion is non-negotiable...

If they need to fill out september's quota in a month, then they may come back to me.. if they do, and I'm still in the market, then we'll talk...

I think the inspection was a bigger deal to them then the 2k...

the dealer's service center reviews are awful... i wouldn't want them doing any repairs anyway.. I live right near sunshine state RV, a 5 star (based on reviews) roadtrek dealer... any issues would be a $$$ adjustment, and i think that's their hangup..
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and the sales person (jennie wilson) did say hold on, hang on for a few minutes and let me talk to the sales mgr... I didn't ask her to, she volunteered, seeing as how i was on my way out...

but, she didn't have any luck either..
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I'm still interested in the unit... I'm going to send a email to the sales person who was very accommodating, telling her i'm still interested, but the inspection portion is non-negotiable...

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You think they are stupid because they won't budge on $2k?


The sales manager is a pro; he can read your mind like the back of his hand.

He was telling Jessie Wilson as you were leaving -- "He'll be back".


He did not become the "manager" by accident.


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I'm thinking there's a reason they don't want an independent inspection--like knowing it won't pass. The obvious neglect and lack of service records are serious red flags.
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You think they are stupid because they won't budge on $2k?

The sales manager is a pro; he can read your mind like the back of his hand.

He was telling Jessie Wilson as you were leaving -- "He'll be back".

He did not become the "manager" by accident.
You're absolutely right...
Like i said, the 2k difference could be bridged..
except, he's wrong...
there will be lots of units out there...
Without an inspection, i wouldn't even buy NEW unit...
But that's just me....
They had this unit since may....
In this market, that means either or both 1. overpriced and 2. significant issues..
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You're absolutely right...
Like i said, the 2k difference could be bridged..
except, he's wrong...
there will be lots of units out there...
Without an inspection, i wouldn't even buy NEW unit...
But that's just me....
They had this unit since may....
In this market, that means either or both 1. overpriced and 2. significant issues..
You are smart for insisting on an inspection.

Like MsNomer said . . . red flags.
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