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Old 08-23-2019, 02:46 PM   #1
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Default Leather chipping off upholstery

Greetings! Iím new to this forum, hoping someone can shed some light on this issue. I have a 2013 Great West Legend SE built on a Sprinter 3500. I bought the unit used in 2015, 30K miles. The previous owner took great care of it mechanically and overall, but there was wear and tear on the front seats, especially the driver side when we bought it. So we took it to an upholstery guy who specialized in vans to replace the ďleatherĒ on the chairs. What he did looks great, no issues 2 years later. But we gradually began noticing that the so-called "leather" on the bed was literally flaking off, leaving little white flakes all over the camper. Then we noticed the same thing on the skirts at the base of the front chairs and around the base of the bed. We went back to the upholstery guy who had repaired the chairs to get his thoughts. He said he had never seen that type of issue before. Unfortunately, GWV is no longer in business so no help there either. We're going to redo the bed and skirts this fall, don't see much choice, but this is getting very expensive. Iím resigned to the fact that we may have to recover the walls eventually as well as the same imitation leather is on those also. Just wondering if anyone else has run into a similar issue?
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Old 08-23-2019, 02:52 PM   #2
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That sounds like a problem that has also been showing up lately in residential furniture.


If it is actually leather (not PU or polyurethane leather AKA not real) it would probably be what the are calling "veneer" leather, where the leather is sliced very, very, thinly and then glued to a fabric backer like vinyl or PU leather is.


It dries out, cracks, and then falls off the liner just like vinyl and PU leather does.
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Haven't seen that in our MY2014 Legend.
One thought: Do you store the vehicle outside in the sun? Obviously, this can cause damage. We always close all our curtains during storage.

BTW: That stuff is generally called "ultra-leather", although I think that is a brand name for one particular manufacturer. I don't think it is real leather. It comes in different qualities, but as far as I can see, the stuff that GWV used was pretty good.
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Haven't seen that in our MY2014 Legend.
One thought: Do you store the vehicle outside in the sun? Obviously, this can cause damage. We always close all our curtains during storage.

BTW: That stuff is generally called "ultra-leather", although I think that is a brand name for one particular manufacturer. I don't think it is real leather. It comes in different qualities, but as far as I can see, the stuff that GWV used was pretty good.

If it is utraleather, that would make it a polyurethane leather, IIRC.


With the damage that widespread, it makes me wonder if the sun could have hit that much area enough to do damage that quickly, as we haven't really heard of much for sun issues that I remember anyway.


What can cause widespread issues like that could be related to cleaning with a cleaner that had an incompatible solvent in it. Polyurethane is a lot tougher than vinyl, but still can be solvent damaged.


It may be a good idea for the OP to send some pix to Ultraleather and see what they say about it, as it does not seen like this would be normal.
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If it is utraleather, that would make it a polyurethane leather, IIRC.


With the damage that widespread, it makes me wonder if the sun could have hit that much area enough to do damage that quickly, as we haven't really heard of much for sun issues that I remember anyway.


What can cause widespread issues like that could be related to cleaning with a cleaner that had an incompatible solvent in it. Polyurethane is a lot tougher than vinyl, but still can be solvent damaged.


It may be a good idea for the OP to send some pix to Ultraleather and see what they say about it, as it does not seen like this would be normal.
Good point about sun damage being local. Aught to be an obvious pattern if that is it. I bet you area right about a poor choice of cleaner.

I don't think the stuff that GWV used was literally Ultraleather, just a similar product. People tend to use "ultraleather" as a generic term like "Kleenex".
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I just noticed this on Crankyape. Is this what the OP was seeing also?


This is from the same time period as this is a 2012


http://https://www.crankyape.com/def...emNumber=91180


Click on a pic and it will open a view to go through them.


This is truly ugly.


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