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Old 08-25-2018, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default Lubricating black/grey water valuves ?

I have a 2007 Roadtrek 210 and I have noticed that the grey water valve operates with some difficulty when opening and closing it. There doesn't seem to be a way to lubricate these guillotine valves from the outside without disassembling them (I would rather not...). Has anyone every tried putting anything in the tank that might lubricate the valves ? I was thinking liquid dish soap, etc. while the tanks are empty and in storage to try to loosen the valves. Does anyone have any tried and true remedies ?
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:28 PM   #2
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I have a 2007 Roadtrek 210 and I have noticed that the grey water valve operates with some difficulty when opening and closing it. There doesn't seem to be a way to lubricate these guillotine valves from the outside without disassembling them (I would rather not...). Has anyone every tried putting anything in the tank that might lubricate the valves ? I was thinking liquid dish soap, etc. while the tanks are empty and in storage to try to loosen the valves. Does anyone have any tried and true remedies ?
I've always thought that lubricating the valves was a necessity. After dumping the tanks, you add some lubrication. There are products you can buy for this, Walmart often has it in the RV area. I just use mineral oil, baby oil - a few ounces.

Someone here may know what would happen, but if me in this situation. I would empty the tanks and add a bunch of mineral oil. Drive a little to make sure it is at the valve. Let it sit for quite awhile, then start opening and closing the valves. Then decide that next step.

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i do the same as Bud described in his post above on our 2007 RT 210P. Years ago, a lot of folks swore by coconut oil. Yep. Coconut oil. Mineral oil is more generally available and the commercial product to do this is very inexpensive. Incidentally, I tried the coconut oil a long time ago - ONCE - and found it to be a gooey mess and swore I would never try it again.

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Just eat more greasy foods.
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Mineral oil will dissolve certain plastic/rubber.

A silicone lubricant is preferred.
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some years ago I used to put RV antifreeze in the toilet bowl when we stored our trailer for the winter months - but some times when we would pull the trailer out of storage to head south in Feb. I would find that the antifreeze had leaked away.

Worse, when we got south to the warm weather I would find that the bowl seal would not hold water and had to fool with the seal for several days to get it to seal again.

I was told on one of the forums that it was not a good idea to leave antifreeze in the bowl as it was not friendly to the seal and to use veg. oil in the toilet instead - So I started doing that, either olive oil or Canola and that did indeed solve the bowl seal issue. The oil remained in the toilet bowl throughout the winter months and once I started using teh trailer again, it would hold water just fine.

Someone dod tell me the veg. oil would leave a gummy mess and I would be better using baby oil so I switched to that - in fact both types of oil seemed fine.

I also read that dumping oil into gray and black tanks was beneficial to the slide valves, so started doing it on a regular basis.

However since then I have read that mineral oils (I think baby oil is mineral oil) cabn casue seal swelling and maybe problems. so I'm not really sure what is best to use.

I think at least one of the commercially available slide valve lubes uses coconut oil so I msy go that route when we get our new "B" next month.

I plan to start adding some sort of slide valve lube from day one to hopefully minimise possible slide valve problems. I always dread the day I pull the black tank slide and the operating rod pulls out from the blade leaving a full tank of waste to somehow deal with and hope never to have to deal with that situation!

So far I have been lucky for about 40 years of RV'ing!

Does anyone have any definitive info on the best product to use?

I'm guessing that for valve lubrication the best time to add it is when the tanks are virtually empty. So that the oil floating on top of the waste will gradually rise with the tank level and hopefully coat the valve face - at least of the inside.

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Coconut oil can solidify. I think that we concern me. I have found vegetable oil highly recommended on other sites. Supposedly vegetable oil will not solidify or even freeze (hopefully I never need to find out...) I believe I will give some vegetable oil a try. I don't think it can hurt and the RV is going to be sitting for a while so it is worth a good soak. Thanks for everyone's help.
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This could be very simple and convenient for some of you not having to purchase anything. For those of you that drink Pina Coladas , just pour some of the drink, assuming you have plenty, down the drain and toilet.

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We used Olive oil in our head on our sailboat for years and never had a problem, while others who used many other lubes, as well as vegetable oil, ran into problems.
We have continued using the cheapest olive oil in our black and grey tanks for many years and never had an issue. 1/4 cup in the sink and toilet after every dump seems to be more than enough.
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