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Old 10-28-2017, 04:57 AM   #1
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Interesting business concept, looking forward to see more info. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...van?ref=c0kwx8
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Old 10-28-2017, 12:19 PM   #2
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When looking at the floor plan you can really see how this type of unit would benefit from a slide out(s) (sides or rear). There looks to be no floor space left once the bed is setup.

Or maybe separate twin beds would allow for some floor space space for middle of the night cassette toilet or porta-potti use.

Hopefully (for them) they do well with the campaign.
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Old 10-28-2017, 02:04 PM   #3
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Weight is the biggest challenge.

Most of the Class B with truck chassis are at or near the GVWR limit.
Doing a conversion with a minivan is not going to be easy.
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I donít fully understand reasons behind having a separate bed instead using a very common in these size vans rock & roll sofa/bed, seating below is useless. Sofa bed deployed can still be used as a seating place but not really in this MetriVan concept, just too high.

I am not sure about reasoning for trunk located galley, like in a tear drop. VW Westfalia had a well proven layout so Advanced RV had to have good reasons to deviate from it.

I agree that weight limits would make any slideout questionable. I have seen a rear slideout on VW T6 but I think it was just a concept.

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ARV must not be too confident in this project if they need to do it with Kickstarter investors.

Sportsmobile beat them to the punch. Interesting vehicles.

https://sportsmobile.com/mercedes-metris/
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ARV must not be too confident in this project if they need to do it with Kickstarter investors.

Sportsmobile beat them to the punch. Interesting vehicles.

https://sportsmobile.com/mercedes-metris/
Because they have done it before, Sportsmobile and VW Westfalia were competing from the seventies. To be successful on this market commitment, volume experience, and money is needed, I see hunger for the last one.
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The best I can see with the rear set up is to appeal to the tailgater crowd at sporting events. This is not a live and entertain inside your van. You travel and sleep in it like a tent.

They are not for sale but the first five are for their rental business. So there are no buyers yet and so the funding will come with renters in the Kickstarter campaign. If successful then the campaign will speak for itself. If not, they still have to two that were already funded with the own money to put in the rental market.

The Sportsmobile conversion checks out at over $71,000 dollars before you add any extras to the Mercedes Benz Metris, of which there are plenty if you go to the Mercedes Benz Metris build site. I take it you have to provide your own Metris and Sportsmobile will convert it for you.
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When looking at the floor plan you can really see how this type of unit would benefit from a slide out(s) (sides or rear). There looks to be no floor space left once the bed is setup.

Or maybe separate twin beds would allow for some floor space space for middle of the night cassette toilet or porta-potti use.
This style of camper is incredibly popular in the Iceland rental market. By far the most common sight in the campgrounds is a young couple (or single) who shower, cook, hang out and take care of business at the campground facilities. A few cook out the back if the weather is good, but usually it is ramen in the kettles in the campground lounge. They spend no awake time in the vans. A typical rig is stuffed to the gills with clutter. These are not experienced campers.

I don't know how popular this would be in the US rental market. The campgrounds just aren't set up for this style of travel.
[edit: On second thought, I shouldn't talk. We have ZERO experience with commercial campgrounds. My comment only applies to public campgrounds and boondocking.]
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ARV must not be too confident in this project if they need to do it with Kickstarter investors.

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I think this is just a publicity stunt. It gets people talking.

Just look around at the web... how many new discussion threads were created in the past 24 hrs.

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This style of camper is incredibly popular in the Iceland rental market. By far the most common sight in the campgrounds is a young couple (or single) who shower, cook, hang out and take care of business at the campground facilities. A few cook out the back if the weather is good, but usually it is ramen in the kettles in the campground lounge. They spend no awake time in the vans. A typical rig is stuffed to the gills with clutter. These are not experienced campers.

I don't know how popular this would be in the US rental market. The campgrounds just aren't set up for this style of travel.
[edit: On second thought, I shouldn't talk. We have ZERO experience with commercial campgrounds. My comment only applies to public campgrounds and boondocking.]
I think the outdoor kitchen is for the same reason as it is in a teardrop, you just don't have enough room inside for it. Outside is better than non existent, I would think. For the way we use our van, it would actually be OK for probably 80% of our "kitchen" use, as we do all our cooking outside except for some microwave runs or minor prep work.

We see the teardrop campers quite a bit around here, and it is rough on them when it is raining, or very cold in the morning, but still a lot better than a tent.
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