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Old 05-16-2012, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default Michelin 225 75 R16 LTX M/S2's

Just in case you, like me, got excited when the Michelin website said the M/S 2 with it's great performance ratings is available in your size, I'll spare you the extra heart beats. It's a mistake. Do not bother to call every tire dealer in your area thinking the first guy who said it's not available is just giving you the jazz cuz the plain M/S is what he's got in the warehouse, and don't bother to call Michelin themselves. I did all this for you. Michelin does not make the LTX M/S 2 in this size, your choice is the plain M/S or the A/T 2.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #2
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Perhaps there is a comparably sized MS2 that would fit your vehicle? Not exact the original
equipment manufacturer's size, but something that would fit and be safe in the tire you desire?

I went with the AT2 in the LT245 75R16 Loadrange E size for my Chevy based Roadtrek. I liked
the slightly more aggressive tread pattern, and figured they would serve me better in muck and snow,
which they do. I don't notice any road noise at speed on the freeway, and I'm pretty sure they are
rated as quiet as their more tamely treaded sisters.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:37 PM   #3
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Mike, we just got the straight MS. We didn't want to put off the decision any longer, and these should be fine. We put this tire on our job and have loved it. Got close to buying Toyos instead as so many people love them, but one guy (who sells both) said that where he would easily choose them for a smaller car, especially for less money, "the bigger they get, the louder they get" so if having less road noise was an issue we might want to stay with Michelins. We did.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:19 PM   #4
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There have been more than a few discussions on here (go figure?) about tires, when and which ones
are favorites, and why. I would think that if you did a search for the keyword - Michelin - up in the
top right hand corner of this page, you'll find a lot of comments about them as the most preferred
replacement tires, when money is no object (it's true that they can be more expensive up front,
but the wear rate on them justifies it, in my opinion). There are other good tires, but Michs are
great, also in my opinion and experience. The only other options I might go with, if there were no
comparable Michelins available, would be Bridgestones or BF Goodrich (I believe they are made by
Michelin?). I've probably put about 75,000 miles on the last set of AT2s I bought for the Roadtrek,
and I believe they will still probably pass a tread depth test for a vehicle safety.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:03 AM   #5
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I've got Toyos on my new Murano and they're great. No complaint, and would happily have had them. But in this neck of the woods Toyos for the Sprinter weren't any cheaper than Michelins, so once the cost advantage went out the window we had no problem "settling" for Michelins. We're just sorry they don't make the M/S2 in our size. That WOULD have been the perfect tire.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:43 AM   #6
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Don't know much about Toyo, but the Michelin MS, AT2, and MS2 are all rated pretty close
at Discount Tire. I got my last set of AT2s there and I like their prices, sales, and service.
The MS2 has an extra 10,000 miles of warranty over the other 2. There must be a reason?
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:36 AM   #7
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Discount Tire is exactly who we bought from, and I agree.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:01 PM   #8
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We just got a set of Mich. LTX M/S2 size 265/75-16 from the Discount Store in Prescott, AZ.
Total cost incl. 9+% sales tax & all was $1443.25 (yikes)! Salesman claimed they no longer offer the AT2, but we got the 70k mile warranty.
So, now we are planning our big trip to Alaska, Yukon, B.C. in Aug. & Sept. and I'm looking on line for Discount Tire stores in B.C. (they call themselves Americas' Tire Store). But Alas, they only have a few stores in the Vancouver/Victoria area. Nothing further North! Last I knew British Columbia, Yukon & all of Canada are on the No. America Continent!! We plan to spend a lot of time in B.C, but not the metro. Vancouver area. IF we have tire trouble we'll have to find a non-Discount tire store Pay through the nose & wonder if Discount tire will reimburse us for warranty - Ha... OR, we'll carry two spares & limp back to a store in the "Real America"!?
I am OCD on these kinda' things. So I'm sure it'll all work out once we get 100 miles from home...
P.S. Oh, I should have mentioned that the cost of these tires did include New Black wheel rims (sexy) with zero offset @ $260. Plus, I did get the $70. Michelin $70. rebate in the mail - so that helped.
But, my main point is that there are no Discount Tire dealers in the interior of the far NorthWest of "America'!
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No AT/2 models any more? Their website says they do, several types in fact, although the difference is
whether you want plain black sidewall, or white lettering.
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/filter ... cs=&fcsr=*
Got 4 in San Angelo, TX for around $800 all in, about 3 years ago. I think that store is closed now,
but I'm not sure. We were just passing through, and I finally decided we needed new tires.
The original Bridgestones were literally wearing thin. The AT/2 has a 60,000 mile warranty. Mine
are past that, and still in good shape. They tend to be stone pickers anyway, so you might be
better off with the MS/2s, if you're going to be on a lot of gravel roads.

Glad you mentioned the rims, as I was wondering about the $1400 price tag for 4 X MS/2.
I didn't think they would have gone up that much in price. Did you need new rims? I had thought
about it at the time, because they had a helluva time getting them off, with all the road dust and
grunge built up on the wheels. The originals probably hadn't been rotated since they were new.

The best you can do is to check out DT in the Washington state area, just before you exit the "real
America" and maybe get them checked. Once in Canada, try Canadian Tire for tire service and
repairs. There are other outfits like Green and Ross, and Beverly Tire, but I have little experience
with them.

Maybe other Canuck forum members can suggest some automotive/tire shops in the western
provinces? If you need service, your best bet might be to use whatever ERS service you have and
see what they suggest. CAA/AAA, Coachnet, or Good Sam probably will help you figure it out.
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Mike; Thanks for the tips on Canadian Tire dealers. I doubt we will have tire troubles, 'cause we're staying pretty much on main hiways. But I like to over think & obsess on the worst case possibilities. Some people call it planning.
Re: the rims; not sure we needed to buy new ones. But I thought best to get zero off-set, per another discussion on this forum and that we went up in size to 265/75 16 from 245s.
We did manage to get clearance for the 265s with a little bit of a lift. That's a whole 'nuther long story/hassle. But I don't really want to start another thread. Ric.
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