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Old 08-30-2019, 01:49 PM   #21
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I installed the new Michelin Agilis tires on Libertas in late May 2018 and Fred Ahlgren (Gustov) installed Agilis around the same time. We have both been pleased the ride.
There is an option of the 2019 MB order sheet for a Michelin tire upgrade but it didn't say which Michelin tire. I did order alloy rims. I may review this again but the Vancour 4 Season Continentals were satisfactory but didn't last long. We may drive to Alaska again next summer before much tire wear.
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Old 08-30-2019, 01:49 PM   #22
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I have the Michelin Agilis Cross Climate C tires on my 2006 158" Sprinter Rv and am happy with them. These are the directional tread tires. Can't tell much difference from my old LTX MS2 tires. I have about 7000 miles on them.

They are also available in a non directional tread in my size 245/75R16.

I was just looking at available sizes and I didn't see the 245-75-16 in the C metric directional tires. Did you use a different size than that?
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Old 08-30-2019, 04:46 PM   #23
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Did you get the directional or symmetrical tread pattern version? It appears both are available in the US?
Symetrical tread pattern; I was not interest in directional pattern but now that you asked I don't recall every seeing that choice in my size by any seller (and priced them all over the internet);
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Old 08-30-2019, 08:01 PM   #24
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Symetrical tread pattern; I was not interest in directional pattern but now that you asked I don't recall every seeing that choice in my size by any seller (and priced them all over the internet);

I may be wrong, but I think all the Cmetric sizes are symmetrical tread. If you look at Tire Rack site they list Pmetric and Cmetric sizes as available, so I think those would be different patterns.
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Back in March I replaced the stock Coni front tires with Defenders on my 2016 Sprinter with 44000 miles. I guess it lost alignment, and the inside on the passenger side was mostly gone. After replacing the fronts, I took it to an MB dealer, who’ve had a super wiz bang alignment set up, and they spent a lot of time on the process, including 3 test drives. As I recall, the cost was quoted at $150, but some alignment parts were needed, so the cost was around $250. The rear 4 were still just Ok, so I put off replacing them till last month (47000 miles). Of course, the Defenders were nowhere to be found. We have a membership with FMCA, and one nice benefit is that they have a national account with Michelin that results in a discount. The process of finding a participating tire source led me to a commercial truck tire supplier that offered the “ribs”. They were about $50 more per tire, and they did not know what the difference was with the Agelis line. They said the ribs were all steel belts with a 60000 mile rating. So I called the Michelin customer hot line... they said that the Agelis had both steel and nylon belts, and that the ride would be better than the ribs, but that they did not have a mile rating, and probably would not last as long. He felt that the Agelis would have a similar life to the Defenders.

Although more miles is better, I was looking for a better ride, and I will be happy if we get 45-50k miles on the new set. With just the 2 Defenders on the front and old Coni’s on the back, I did not notice a big difference in the ride. But the new Agelis set on the back has really made a noticeable difference... much smoother!
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Back in March I replaced the stock Coni front tires with Defenders on my 2016 Sprinter with 44000 miles. I guess it lost alignment, and the inside on the passenger side was mostly gone. After replacing the fronts, I took it to an MB dealer, who’ve had a super wiz bang alignment set up, and they spent a lot of time on the process, including 3 test drives. As I recall, the cost was quoted at $150, but some alignment parts were needed, so the cost was around $250. The rear 4 were still just Ok, so I put off replacing them till last month (47000 miles). Of course, the Defenders were nowhere to be found. We have a membership with FMCA, and one nice benefit is that they have a national account with Michelin that results in a discount. The process of finding a participating tire source led me to a commercial truck tire supplier that offered the “ribs”. They were about $50 more per tire, and they did not know what the difference was with the Agelis line. They said the ribs were all steel belts with a 60000 mile rating. So I called the Michelin customer hot line... they said that the Agelis had both steel and nylon belts, and that the ride would be better than the ribs, but that they did not have a mile rating, and probably would not last as long. He felt that the Agelis would have a similar life to the Defenders.

Although more miles is better, I was looking for a better ride, and I will be happy if we get 45-50k miles on the new set. With just the 2 Defenders on the front and old Coni’s on the back, I did not notice a big difference in the ride. But the new Agelis set on the back has really made a noticeable difference... much smoother!
Early in my search I decided to buy Michelin Rib tires; I called Michelin and was told the Rib did not have high ratings for wet weather traction; I took her word for it and move on; ended up with Agilis Cross Climate.
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Old 09-04-2019, 01:33 PM   #27
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I used to have a set of Michelin LTX AT2 tires on my Roadtrek, and they were probably the best overall wear, ride, and traction tires I've ever had. If they came in a 215/85R16, I'd probably use them next time around on the Navion. Being an all terrain model, they worked well in snow, mud, gravel, and sand, and the edges of the tread were a bit "gnarlier" than the newer Agilis CrossClimate based on website visuals. The tread depth was deeper than the comparable MS2, as were the sidewalls.

I replaced them at a 69,000 miles (almost 10,000 miles past their stated life expectancy of around 60,000 miles), after I noticed a tread separation caused one to start to fail on a trip in 2015. That was in the TriCity area of Michigan. Discount Tire in Traverse City said there was enough tread left to prorate a discount to a new set of LTX MS2s - unfortunately they didn't have a set of AT2s in stock, and we were on a timed schedule, so I replaced them with the summer tires. Got a $434 off discount on the new set. I love Discount Tire.

Just a thought for those who might occasionally encounter poor traction situations out there. The AT2 is a great all season, all terrain,option. IMO.
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The Michelin LTX MS2 tires installed in 2014 at 30,000 miles have gone 90,000 mile and still have useable thread life, but they are checking badly on the sidewalls. I plan to get them changed during my 120,000 mile B-service next week.

Dealer quoted me a set of Defender LTX tires back in February, but they are not sure if now available with less than 6-month age code. I'll find out what is available next week so I might end up with Agilis Cross Climate tires.
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I replaced my tires about a month ago with the Michelin Agilis on my 2014 Sprinter Agile. However, have only driven around town so far, we are taking a longer trip next week and could then tell you if I can fell any difference in the ride. Around town, the ride feels better, but that could be due to the fact that the old tires were in bad shape-lots of cupping on the rear tires and lots of chunking in the front tires.
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Dealer quoted me a set of Defender LTX tires back in February, but they are not sure if now available with less than 6-month age code. I'll find out what is available next week so I might end up with Agilis Cross Climate tires.
Took van to Freightliner Sprinter shop that I normally use. They can get Michelin Defender LTX tires that are new (dated less than 6-months) but their supplier did say they are being "phased out".
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