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Old 04-29-2018, 08:29 AM   #1
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Hi Guys!

i'm new to the forum.

I've been doing some research about RVs.

As I got into it, I started seeing many RVers recounting about the problems they were having getting their RVs repaired when something failed under warranty.

They were talking about how long they had to wait for parts.

They talked about their RVs not being manufactured very well but the price was going up each year.

In my past experiences when something like situation occurred there always seemed to be an association where the members of the community could turn for help.

So I started searching for an association that would represent RVers.

I found Good Sam, but was disappointed to find out they had sold out to Camping World and were nothing more than a marketing leg now, not the voice of the Rver they once were.

Do you think there needs to be an association where RVers can turn when they can't get manufacturers or dealers to perform?

Ideally, this association would be totally independent of any outside influence so it could truly advocate on behalf of RVers.

Need your thoughts.

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Old 04-29-2018, 12:51 PM   #2
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Hi Guys! ...

Do you think there needs to be an association where RVers can turn when they can't get manufacturers or dealers to perform?

Ideally, this association would be totally independent of any outside influence so it could truly advocate on behalf of RVers.

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Old 04-29-2018, 02:01 PM   #3
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Thanks! It looks like we have a problem with the RV manufacturers and dealers banding together against their customers.

I'm a degreed engineer...I solve problems...not just manufacturing problems, other problems too.

I'm going to put together the start of a plan to get RV owners to band together to force manufacturers, dealers, suppliers and lawmakers to listen.

I've also been in the construction business for 29 years and have connections with architects/consulting engineers who know how to streamline the development of projects...such as RV parks.

I'm going to reach out to Chuck Woodbury to see if we can work together to make something happen.

I believe that if RV owners gather together and have one voice, we can make things change for the better. We can fight the lobbyists and we can win.

Let me know if you and others are open to such a group.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:48 PM   #4
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Great idea! What about the RVIA though? Surely they are on our side? Curious, but perhaps a grassroots movement where RV’ers have regular and local meet-up’s? Akin to car meets in parking lots, but we would meet in parks or other RV friendly places to discuss the RV lifestyle and share our stories.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:25 PM   #5
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Great idea! What about the RVIA though? Surely they are on our side? Curious, but perhaps a grassroots movement where RVíers have regular and local meet-upís? Akin to car meets in parking lots, but we would meet in parks or other RV friendly places to discuss the RV lifestyle and share our stories.
I'm open to any and all ideas.

Regarding the RVIA - they are complicit in hiding the quality issues that exist in the manufacturing of RVs. From what I understand, the board of the RVIA has 2 people from the top manufacturers on it.

The RVIA sells the manufacturers the approved seal that goes on all RVs..it says the RV was built to a particular standard, but nobody has access to the standard.

In my opinion, RVIA is part of the problem.

I like the ideas of meet ups.

One thing that I believe would be great is if the organization was involved in developing RV parks. If membership was big enough, the development could be funded by the organization which would make the parks debt free when they were done.

So the park fees would only need to be high enough to support on site personnel and maintenance.

The reason there aren't many parks being built is because it isn't economically feasible.

The Return on Investment is 15 years and no investor is going to invest there when there are so many other options unless they can charge over $100 per night.

And what RVer wants to pay more than $100 per night?

I think the organization would need to guided by the members who would vote on issues that were important each quarter.

What you do you think?
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This thread is so naive and detached from the history of the RV industry, it would be hilarious, but is sad nonetheless.
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We were just at Advanced Fest in Willoughby, OH. About 50 vans came and we had two days of workshops on every subject and it was give and take and Advanced RV listens to their customers and is willing to incorporate customerís ideas. I canít complain. I just got out of a two hour meeting on a radically different van.
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This thread is so naive and detached from the history of the RV industry, it would be hilarious, but is sad nonetheless.
Please elaborate.

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We were just at Advanced Fest in Willoughby, OH. About 50 vans came and we had two days of workshops on every subject and it was give and take and Advanced RV listens to their customers and is willing to incorporate customerís ideas. I canít complain. I just got out of a two hour meeting on a radically different van.
What was the consensus regarding the Volta system? Will it become standard for ARV or will it be an option in place of the 12V Delco setup? And what other innovative changes were discussed? Operators are standing by.
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We were just at Advanced Fest in Willoughby, OH. About 50 vans came and we had two days of workshops on every subject and it was give and take and Advanced RV listens to their customers and is willing to incorporate customerís ideas. I canít complain. I just got out of a two hour meeting on a radically different van.
That's great! They are apparently the exception to the rule. This is from all the feedback I'm getting from other RV owners.

Your experience should be the norm.

I'll be willing to bet that Advance will really grow in the coming years as more and more RV owners demand higher quality.
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