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Old 05-22-2018, 02:36 PM   #1
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This is something people might want to consider.
Especially those people that like VW vans.
Also, they will be offered at Nissan dealerships.
I am going to consider getting one.

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Old 05-22-2018, 05:42 PM   #2
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Not a huge fan of Nissan, but I like it.
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It would sure be great if campers were sold by auto dealerships - I think one would get better service because the parent company could put pressure on the dealer. Under the current RV system, the RV manufacturers don't appear to have any clout with regard to post-purchase service.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:58 AM   #4
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Take "at your local Nissan dealer" with a grain of salt. Recon is a tiny boutique operation. I doubt they can put out more than a handful of vans a month.

Most likely is that some Nissan dealers will have a kiosk or display where you can find out how to order a van. Some may even have an actual camper van in the showroom for display - but I doubt it will be very many stores - probably only the biggest markets for this kind of RV.

Actually, from their website, they say this:

"How does the conversion process work? What if I don't live in California?
The conversion process is very simple, the client buys the base Nissan NV200 from a dealer and we do the conversion on this van here in beautiful southern California. We work with a local dealer who sells vans to our clients at dealer invoice pricing. The dealer then delivers the van to our facility and will even ship it to your door anywhere in the US when the conversion is complete. The entire process can be done from your phone and computer in the comfort of your home."
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I would love to see auto makers make campers. This would bring the huge economies of scale and automation that they have to the RV industry.
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I would love to see auto makers make campers. This would bring the huge economies of scale and automation that they have to the RV industry.

I agree - bring back the GM Motorhome!!

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I would love to see auto makers make campers. This would bring the huge economies of scale and automation that they have to the RV industry.
Be careful what you wish for. To get those economies of scale, they have to produce large numbers of units.

Large numbers of RV's out there mean even more pressure on limited campground resources and/or finding wild places to boondock.
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Here in Texas, there is a lot of pressure already. Around Austin, some of the CGs wind up having all their spots reserved as far as in advance as possible, usually by scalpers.

Given a choice, I'd rather see more campervans on the road than the fifth wheels and 45 foot class "A"s with telescoping slides. One can park ten class "B"s in the space one of those monstrosities require.

If "everyone" had a class "B", things would be interesting. A hotel could build a van friendly parking garage, offer bath-houses and electric, with a few dump stations, and could provide a very useful service for a dense area relatively cheaply, with the only real maintenance power. Definitely a lot less than a hotel. Class "B" specific RV parks could sprout up, offering very nice sites. Even dry camping areas become feasible. For families with 3-4 people, CGs could have small cabins and annexes.
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Here in Texas, there is a lot of pressure already. Around Austin, some of the CGs wind up having all their spots reserved as far as in advance as possible, usually by scalpers.

Given a choice, I'd rather see more campervans on the road than the fifth wheels and 45 foot class "A"s with telescoping slides. One can park ten class "B"s in the space one of those monstrosities require.

If "everyone" had a class "B", things would be interesting. A hotel could build a van friendly parking garage, offer bath-houses and electric, with a few dump stations, and could provide a very useful service for a dense area relatively cheaply, with the only real maintenance power. Definitely a lot less than a hotel. Class "B" specific RV parks could sprout up, offering very nice sites. Even dry camping areas become feasible. For families with 3-4 people, CGs could have small cabins and annexes.
I think you are wildly optimistic. I would think that the number of vans could shoot up really quickly if someone started building camper vans in great numbers. Especially if fuel prices shot up really high and people were basically forced to downsize. If something becomes popular, or really affordable, people decide and buy in a matter of months.

The problem is, that the campground industry, as well as new players like hotels, would be very slow to react. It's a tremendous investment to build a new RV park from scratch - even modifying one to improve it to accommodate a higher number of smaller RV's wouldn't be insignificant. It's even more daunting when you can only charge $30-40 a night - do the math on a typical RV park - they probably only profit about $10 per site per nite. When you are looking at a multi-million dollar investment, plus property taxes at the commercial rates, the math just doesn't work. Your hotel idea sounds promising, but not when you consider the technical requirements of adding power hookups for several dozen RV's. Not to mention the requirements to put in a dump station - I could tell you it's almost impossible getting one permitted in CA - even the State Parks are now charging a surcharge to dump because of the astronomical costs they are now experiencing.

An RV park going from 100 to 300 spaces doesn't sound very appealing to me. Neither does the spike in fees that would come with new development or modification of parks. Eventually, the market would balance, new facilities would be built - but we would all be paying much more and dealing with more crowded places - essentially being miserable for many years - many of us would be dead by the time all this would be completed and some kind of normalcy returned.

So no thanks, I like things as they are.
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