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Old 09-29-2008, 02:38 AM   #1
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Can someone tell us the situation we are in ? As of February 2009 , will ALL RV's need sattelite tv reception unless plugged in to a cable ? All those '' old '' wind up and twist TV antennas can no longer be used ?
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:31 AM   #2
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I don't know what those "old wind-up and twist antennas" are but here is some reading that will answer your other question:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/digitaltv.html

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Old 09-29-2008, 02:59 PM   #3
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Thanks . The '' wind up '' antennas are the 'Wineguard' type . Thanks for the link. I think the real problem will be the reception . DTV requires excellent reception, where the old analog system worked as a radio type tuner, allowing '' fuzzy '' tv broadcasts to be watched , where the same broadcast at the same campsite CAN NOT be watched , because the DTV won't allow it ! The screen message shows the dreaded '' no signal '' message . What is the solution , besides subscribing to satellite tv ?
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:21 PM   #4
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Hmmmmm - I guess I'm not sure what it is you're asking.

Are you aware of the "converter box" (and the associated govt coupon program) ? The box will allow you to continue to use your OTA antenna to receive the new (mandated) digital broadcasts (some will allow analog "pass-thru" for those remote times when you're still receiving analog from non-digital stations).
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:37 PM   #5
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Didn't know about the coupon. Can you give more info ? I'm in Canada. My point is : My brother's flat screen will not pick up the same broadcast that I can using the older ''tube'' type tv . His tv says '' no signal '' where I can watch a fuzzy but discernable show.
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Old 09-29-2008, 05:46 PM   #6
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OK, gotcha now.

In the US all (most - there are a few exceptions) TV over the air (OTA)broadcasting will change from analog to digital (Feb '09?).

In order for folks to get reception they're (we're) gonna need 1) a TV with a digital tuner 2) a converter box for older TVs 3) cable tv (which uses a converter box) or 4) satellite tv (which uses a converter box).

The US Govt realizes that a lot of folks can't just run out and buy a new TV (with the digital tuner) so they're trying to help by issuing up to 2 coupons per family to help pay for a "converter box". Each coupon is worth $40 towards the purchase of a "box" - which generally cost about $60 (so the end cost to us will be about $20).

The box takes the digital broadcast signal and converts it to analog (so the older TVs are able to present a watchable picture). Some boxes have a "digital pass thru" selector button (desireable) - that'll allow one to receive either a digital or an analog signal.

I believe Canada will be converting "sometime" after the US does (Aug 2011 ?) - so it shouldn't be a factor for you until that time (unless you want to receive US stations - in which case you'll need one of the options listed above).

Ref your Bro's "no signal" - I've got one of the converter boxes installed in my Van - it's got the analog "pass thru button". While parked in the same spot and while in the analog pass thru position I get most of the local channels (albiet with various degrees of fuzziness). If I choose the digital position sometimes I get a very clear picture (on any one of the 6 channels that I get) and sometimes I get the dreaded "no signal" alert.

I haven't had occasion to "move around" with my Van to test reception - but will do so in October, when we take a trip. So, I suspect it's wherever the TV happens to be located that dictates "signal" or "no signal".

Hope that helps.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:26 AM   #7
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From Industry Canada's website:

http://www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/oca-bc.ns ... 2319e.html

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CONSUMER NOTICE
After August 31, 2011, all analog televisions will require a converter box in order to receive Canadian over-the-air broadcasts using an antenna. At that time, all over-the-air broadcast signals in Canada will be in digital-only format. Canadians using satellite or digital cable services should see no change.

U.S. television stations broadcasting over-the-air into Canada will make this change sooner, in February, 2009.
This link:

http://classbforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=924

has some info about converters some forum members have used.
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The Winegard antennas that are on many Class Bs should work fine with digital reception. I saw a digital TV installation and the digital reception already available was better than the analog using the Winegard antennas.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:52 AM   #9
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I played with a Digital tuner this summer. I just had VHF bunny ears in the trailer, which were virtually useless. Switched over to a UHF antenna and picked up about 15 digital stations. They either come in crystal clear digital or break up and pixcelate, if reception is poor.

If you currently pick up some very strong stations, you will probably have no trouble picking them up digitally with even a few bonus stations thrown in. Such as here we have channel 17 analog, but digital we get 17-1 HD, 17-2 SD and 17-3 children.

You can also try an antenna amp.
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I've had some time to try the digital tuner and have seen the same results. The pics are either cable quality or they tend to pixellate and break up, but when they're good they're really good. The link Marko posted as an additional link, has my efforts at trying to resolve the "US going to digital soon" issues. So, if you want to watch digital TV signals in the US, you either buy a new TV with a digital tuner built in, or get a digital tuner and add it to your existing system between the antenna and your TV, like I did. The antenna doesn't care whether the signal is analog or digital, it feeds it through to your A/B switch in whatever format it sees. It's what your TV or tuners do with it at that point that matters. BTW, if you're Canadian, you don't qualify for the conversion assistance coupons. They're for US citizens only.
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