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Old 08-24-2019, 04:20 PM   #1
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The NHTSA recommends that tires be replaced every six years regardless of the number of miles driven. Proper inflation is the Holy Grail of tire maintenance. Too much or too little air in your tires is guaranteed to cause you trouble and uneven or excessive wear over time.

Tires are the only thing between you and the road. I'd rather spend a few extra dollars on this and not worry about it.

I personally know a few people who had tire failures on their van and they all said that one incident can result in your losing control, flipping over or causing a major accident.
They were lucky, but said they would never do that again. All that money you think you're saving won't mean anything if your wheels are destroyed or worse you don't survive the crash.

It's also a good idea to have a tire pressure monitoring system on your rig.
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:22 PM   #2
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The NHTSA recommends that tires be replaced every six years regardless of the number of miles driven. Proper inflation is the Holy Grail of tire maintenance. Too much or too little air in your tires is guaranteed to cause you trouble and uneven or excessive wear over time.

Tires are the only thing between you and the road. I'd rather spend a few extra dollars on this and not worry about it.

I personally know a few people who had tire failures on their van and they all said that one incident can result in your losing control, flipping over or causing a major accident.
They were lucky, but said they would never do that again. All that money you think you're saving won't mean anything if your wheels are destroyed or worse you don't survive the crash.

It's also a good idea to have a tire pressure monitoring system on your rig.

And just what does this post have to do with Michelin tire models availability????
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:36 PM   #3
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And just what does this post have to do with Michelin tire models availability????
This was in response to something you wrote; see below.

It appears that the often first choice Defenders are going away in the 16" sizes used on many of our vans, which kind of pains me because our now 6 year old MS2 Michelins will be do to replace in a couple of years.

I don't advise people to wait on this safety issue.
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This was in response to something you wrote; see below.

It appears that the often first choice Defenders are going away in the 16" sizes used on many of our vans, which kind of pains me because our now 6 year old MS2 Michelins will be do to replace in a couple of years.

I don't advise people to wait on this safety issue.

That is, plainly, BS based on your history of chattering up threads with unrelated stuff. This is not a discussion of how often tires should be replaced, what tire pressure to run, TPMS, or how close "people you know" came to being killed. I repeat, BS. If you want to discuss those topics, start a thread about about them, but leave this one discussing the topic it was started for.
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That is, plainly, BS based on your history of chattering up threads with unrelated stuff. This is not a discussion of how often tires should be replaced, what tire pressure to run, TPMS, or how close "people you know" came to being killed. I repeat, BS. If you want to discuss those topics, start a thread about about them, but leave this one discussing the topic it was started for.
The NHTSA doesn't make statements like that for laughs.
I don't know why you don't take this advice seriously.

It's very unfortunate. It is definitely not BS.

Traveling on old tires is not a good idea for you or anyone else on the road. Sorry, but, that's just a fact.
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It's pretty well known that Michelin says 10 years max for the tires the discussion was about. They also recommend having them checked by a pro from 5 years onward.

Actual info from NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/tires

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As tires age, they are more prone to failure. Some vehicle and tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires that are six to 10 years old, regardless of treadwear.
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It's pretty well known that Michelin says 10 years max for the tires the discussion was about. They also recommend having them checked by a pro from 5 years onward.

Actual info from NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/tires
Thank you for looking up the actual NHTSA recommendation--I was just about to do so. One of the things I like about this list is the difficulty in passing exaggeration as fact.
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Thank you for looking up the actual NHTSA recommendation--I was just about to do so. One of the things I like about this list is the difficulty in passing exaggeration as fact.

I agree completely.


As an old engineer used to say about his trade and how do it.


"Good engineers look stuff up, and bad engineers make stuff up".


So very appropriate in many other things, too.
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Real Class B RVers don't worry about tires lasting 6 years. They drive them and never reach 6 years.

Maybe it is a concern when buying used, especially older models that have been stored away for a long time and not used.
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I bet if I spent enough money I could get every agency out there to say tires should be replaced every five years, or four, or seven or whatever. I bet I could buy every one of them.

Edmunds already says you should replace your tires every three years.

Road and Track for years was saying two years. They've modified that due to the laughter, snickering and now total lack of respect for any [advertiser driven] opinion they have.

If there are scientific studies, they state this mixture used in this brand of [discontinued] tire should last this long if this fifty category list of environmental factors is in play.

If it makes you feel good replacing your tires every two/three/six years then go for it. I'm still going to rely on the inspection-based common sense decisions that have kept me rolling.

Two years ... jeeesh!

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