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Old 12-12-2014, 04:58 PM   #11
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If you look at the specs in the all model brochure you will see the Promaster Lexor front seats do not swivel. All the other models do. Also, there may be a conflict in their information as they say the front seats are ultra leather on their plan but the photos very definitely show the stock grey seats as they come. This is the same as was said about the Winnebago Travato in that they could not re-upholster because of the seat installed airbags. That is an aesthetic issue only as the cab finishing doesn't much match the back anyway.

In my former Pleasure-way Sprinter Plateau I had to after market install a swivel seat base for the passenger seat. It made all the difference in using that B to me. Not having a swivel seat would now be a deal killer for me in an otherwise fairly good floor plan I am familiar with living in. This is something to think about when comparing the Promasters because you will not have any kind of zoned living arrangement between front and back.
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Old 12-12-2014, 05:06 PM   #12
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If you look at the specs in the all model brochure you will see the Promaster Lexor front seats do not swivel. All the other models do. Also, there may be a conflict in their information as they say the front seats are ultra leather on their plan but the photos very definitely show the stock grey seats as they come. This is the same as was said about the Winnebago Travato in that they could not re-upholster because of the seat installed airbags. That is an aesthetic issue only as the cab finishing doesn't much match the back anyway.

In my former Pleasure-way Sprinter Plateau I had to after market install a swivel seat base for the passenger seat. It made all the difference in using that B to me. Not having a swivel seat would now be a deal killer for me in an otherwise fairly good floor plan I am familiar with living in. This is something to think about when comparing the Promasters because you will not have any kind of zoned living arrangement between front and back.

Davydd-look at the second picture. the passenger seat is swiveled around
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Old 12-12-2014, 05:18 PM   #13
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If you look at the specs in the all model brochure you will see the Promaster Lexor front seats do not swivel. All the other models do. Also, there may be a conflict in their information as they say the front seats are ultra leather on their plan but the photos very definitely show the stock grey seats as they come. This is the same as was said about the Winnebago Travato in that they could not re-upholster because of the seat installed airbags. That is an aesthetic issue only as the cab finishing doesn't much match the back anyway.

In my former Pleasure-way Sprinter Plateau I had to after market install a swivel seat base for the passenger seat. It made all the difference in using that B to me. Not having a swivel seat would now be a deal killer for me in an otherwise fairly good floor plan I am familiar with living in. This is something to think about when comparing the Promasters because you will not have any kind of zoned living arrangement between front and back.

Davydd-look at the second picture. the passenger seat is swiveled around
I don't know why the author posted that second picture. Go back and look at the brochure. That is the Sprinter Plateau FL.
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The title of the Pleasure Way model in Youtube is "2015 Pleasure-Way ProMaster Lexor TS Tour." If they put 'TS' on this model name, then I would like to assume that in the near future they would make 'FL' model which provide some living space at the front with swivel chairs just like Plateau FL. I agree that if Pleasure Way does not have the swivel chair, this will be deal breaker. If FL floor plan requires smaller bathroom, I can live with that. I sent an email to Pleasure Way the other day asking if they plan to make FL style ProMaster, but they have not responded yet.
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Davydd-as usual i am corrected. I better get better.
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:21 PM   #16
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BBahk,

The TS designation came about to describe an electric sofa model. Pleasure-way at one time had other designations for the same floor plan but different back end such as TD for the twin bed with dinette for the Plateau. The FL is a different designation for a different floor plan design up front from the bed forward (which the bed is the same as the TS). So the suffix letters are not related. Why they named the Lexor a TS is probably marketing wanting to make a comparative statement in the plan layout. Keep in mind the Plateau TS seats both swivel now, so the TS designation does not couple with the front seats in any manner. However, if you analyze the plan there may never be an FL equivalent in the Promaster. There is nothing that could be taken out of the plan to make it so very easily anymore than you could with a Sprinter Ascent model. The Promaster Lexor is 1'-10" shorter than their Sprinter Plateau killing a lot of design flexibility with that particular layout.

You might see a Promaster Lexor TD since the brochure does describe single beds and I suspect there is still a Plateau TD and a Lexor TD. The old Chevy Lexor once has three designations of RD (rear dinette) TD (twin dinette) and TS (the electric sofa). Probably one of those hidden deals. You would have to order it as I suspect the dealers prefer not to stock them thus would gladly like to downplay them.

In looking at my old 2005 brochure when the twin dinette TD was more popular it does show photos. The twin dinette twin bed model had a night stand between that was fixed which in effect blocked the through passageway idea the Roadtrek Zion is promoting.
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Davydd,
I have been thoroughly enjoying reading your helpful comments from various threads regarding RVing. I also appreciate your insightful response to my questions. I think you are right that there is no space available to make FL (front lounge?) sytle for ProMaster chassis. I will wait and see what other options are available for the next 6 months. We are very excited to see more ProMaster chassis converions show up in the B market.
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BBahk,

You can never say never as was witnessed by Winnebago rebounding from its initial Travato 59G floor plan to the 59K model almost entirely different. It is just that Pleasure-way is a more steady less shoot from the hip company. They know what they know and they pretty much stick to it. I don't expect to see anything radical soon from them especially if they are building to capacity like a lot of the converters seem to be doing.
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I received a response from Pleasure Way saying that "unfortunately it is not possible to build a Front Lounge version on the Promaster. Promaster chassis does not have the needed real estate to push the driver side cabinetry back the necessary length."
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I received a response from Pleasure Way saying that "unfortunately it is not possible to build a Front Lounge version on the Promaster. Promaster chassis does not have the needed real estate to push the driver side cabinetry back the necessary length."
That would be news to about a dozen European converters using this platform. Maybe they should re-think their cabinetry.
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