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Old 06-10-2018, 11:12 PM   #21
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People in Class C's and Class A's had made a life style choice. The are not besides themselves for the most part. They are committed to RVing. You are sounding more like having misgivings about buying your Class B or your wife is not fully on board with the idea of traveling that way.

Who cares about the cost of gas when someone shells out more for an RV than any potential car they buy?
Buying a $350,000 to $500,000 Class A... especially brand new to live in it full time is...in my opinion, a terrible investment.....it's a depreciating asset..... and over time you won't have any value........

It's not at all like buying a house.... which appreciates in value.....big difference...

I know that my Class B is a toy and I can live with that depreciating asset...and just enjoy it while we can....

As far as I'm concerned.... when I sell my RV the money we recoup will be deducted from what I paid and it would have been like renting the RV.....

I'm OK with that... much smaller scale....I'm not selling my house for a Class A....or even a fancier Class B... not worth the investment...... again.. these are NOT investments.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:25 PM   #22
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If you are driving 6,000 miles...
And you get 21 MPG in the Sprinter and 29 MPG in the car...
And gas and diesel are both $3.75...

You will save about $300 in fuel by driving the car.

If both the Sprinter and the car would require service (i.e., oil change, etc.) at the end of the trip, what would you save by driving the car? Guessing...

$200 savings if using car.

If you drive the car, you will need probably 12 nights of hotel at, say $75/night and if you drive the Sprinter, you may need 6 nights at a full-service campground at, say $35 per night.

Cost for driving car = $700.

If you drive the car, you will need to eat out for all your meals, but might get a continental breakfast at the hotels so let's say $35/day for restaurants. If you take the Sprinter, you may want to eat out once very other day so ...

Cost for driving car = $300.

So the cost for driving the car is: hotel + food - fuel - service = $500 more than if you take the Sprinter, but if you think there will be significant wear and tear on it or if something bad happens with your emissions, then that number could easily go in the other direction.
Well, I think I'm taking the CAR..... here's WHY....

Actually, for everyone's information... gasoline across the USA right now is running 50 to 60 cents less per gallon than diesel.... especially outside California....I checked on the Pilot RV application...you can see the average price per gallon at all of their stations across the USA... very handy....

Also, the further we drive the more significant the savings.... when we reach our destination we will be using our car for 4 weeks or more and driving around that area is a lot easier in the car.....

I estimated 6,000 miles... but it could be more...and the difference adds up...

Plus, I did a search online at these various Pilot stations and discovered that in many areas we are going they have B20...... I just had my emissions system completely replaced... I don't think I want to start using a lot of biodiesel blends in the Sprinter right away....bad call....

So, for all of these reasons.... I'm going to take my car... but, thanks for your replies.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:29 PM   #23
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Plus, I did a search online at these various Pilot stations and discovered that in many areas we are going they have B20.
Nobody will force you to buy at Pilot. B5 is readily available everywhere in the US except Minnesota.
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Hey Willie! Just wondering what Classic Mini you have?! I still have a '79 that I rebuilt from the ground up 25 years ago!

1270 bored to 1330, ported head, 3/4' SU, rally cam, LCB exhaust, neg camber front suspension etc.

I have not had it on the road for a couple of years, but should do so again - maybe this summer!


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Nobody will force you to buy at Pilot. B5 is readily available everywhere in the US except Minnesota.
Thanks for this information...
What stations have the regular diesel??

Major stations like Shell, Chevron, etc???

Still....50 to 60 cents per gallon does add up...
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I don't understand how these things work - often - including right now - diesel is cheaper in Canada than gas! Not always though.

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Thanks for this information...
What stations have the regular diesel??

Major stations like Shell, Chevron, etc???
Varies by locality. But there is really no issue. In a few places you have to shop around a bit, but there are major distributors everywhere that eschew bio. Some of them even advertise it.
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Thanks for this information...
What stations have the regular diesel??

Major stations like Shell, Chevron, etc???

Still....50 to 60 cents per gallon does add up...
This map might help you on where NOT to look.

Retail Map - Biodiesel.org
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Well, I think I'm taking the CAR..... here's WHY....

Actually, for everyone's information... gasoline across the USA right now is running 50 to 60 cents less per gallon than diesel.... especially outside California....I checked on the Pilot RV application...you can see the average price per gallon at all of their stations across the USA... very handy....

Also, the further we drive the more significant the savings.... when we reach our destination we will be using our car for 4 weeks or more and driving around that area is a lot easier in the car.....

I estimated 6,000 miles... but it could be more...and the difference adds up...

Plus, I did a search online at these various Pilot stations and discovered that in many areas we are going they have B20...... I just had my emissions system completely replaced... I don't think I want to start using a lot of biodiesel blends in the Sprinter right away....bad call....

So, for all of these reasons.... I'm going to take my car... but, thanks for your replies.
I used to spend a lot of effort towards saving money until the friends dropping like flies around me made it abundantly clear to me that I too can't live forever.
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Hey Willie! Just wondering what Classic Mini you have?! I still have a '79 that I rebuilt from the ground up 25 years ago!

1270 bored to 1330, ported head, 3/4' SU, rally cam, LCB exhaust, neg camber front suspension etc.

I have not had it on the road for a couple of years, but should do so again - maybe this summer!


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A 1975 I bought from New Zealand. Had it 15 years now. 1300ish, 10.5 to 1 comp. built right. Will cruise 80mph all day. Lowered a bit and fully adjustable susp. Real fun in the mountains.
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