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Old 06-11-2018, 08:21 PM   #1
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We recently rented a Roadtrek simplicity with a front facing rear couch. When reclined into the bed position it wasn’t very comfortable due to the seams in the cushions (I know you can add a topper to provide more comfort)

My question is how the bed is on the other Roadtrek design with the galley couch setup. It seems like that may be better since you aren’t laying across any seams.

I can see some additional benefits of that layout (ability to carry bikes inside).
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We recently rented a Roadtrek simplicity with a front facing rear couch. When reclined into the bed position it wasn’t very comfortable due to the seams in the cushions (I know you can add a topper to provide more comfort)

My question is how the bed is on the other Roadtrek design with the galley couch setup. It seems like that may be better since you aren’t laying across any seams.

I can see some additional benefits of that layout (ability to carry bikes inside).
We use a mattress topper and pin the sheets onto the topper... we roll up the mattress topper and store that above the rear cabinets every night ... we just make up the bed and use the sofa and seats during the day to relax... works fine.

I don't advise carrying bicycles inside.... in an accident, they will be like projectiles inside your coach unless they are tied down securely... we only have a 28 inch aisle... would not work for us.

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Thanks for the pic. Does anyone have the other layout where the couches face each other? Interested to get opinions on the comfort of those beds.
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Thanks for the pic. Does anyone have the other layout where the couches face each other? Interested to get opinions on the comfort of those beds.
Our old Airstream Interstate had mid-vehicle facing sofas that folded down to form a queen bed. Our current rig has the famous Great West tri-fold rear sofa (with clear-span storage underneath).

Having slept many nights in both, I can attest that having the "cracks" perpendicular to your body is vastly more comfortable than having them parallel to your body.
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Thanks for the pic. Does anyone have the other layout where the couches face each other? Interested to get opinions on the comfort of those beds.
We do, and we absolutely love them. Wouldn't have any other kind, and no topper needed. The seam doesn't bother us. In fact, if I position myself in certain ways, it can relieve pressure points (hip and shoulder).

The large table in this pic below was subsequently replaced with a Lagun. Another reason why we like these couches is that they can be raised and lowered one side at a time. One person (my husband) can continue sleeping while the other sits up. (Of course, now I've got a Lagun mount in the front as well as the rear, so I can swivel the passenger seat and also sit up there.)

The bedding stores in the long, narrow cabinetry portions directly beneath each couch. It's an Atwood model couch system. I've got a pic of the label somewhere.

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We have a totally different setup.





Electrically operated and controlled by an iPhone or Android. Infinite positioning from bed to infinite gravity lounge comfort. When I proposed this design in April, 2014 there wasn't a manufactured bed made in the USA that could satisfy the perimeters of my design clearance wise. There were a couple of eastern Europe companies but they would not or could not sell in the USA that might have satisfied the design. Advanced RV took on the challenge anyway but it was not until Legget and Platt came out with a new model bed in July, 2014 that didn't have a bulky box spring base that it became feasible. Even so the base frame had to be rebuilt to size and custom mattress sections had to be made. The operation of separately controlled foot, back and pillow was maintained. It is basically a hospital bed or increasingly luxury home bed. The bonus that I didn't design or request was the beds vibrate by default.

Advanced RV has since marketed this design with custom improvements for each customer. My beds are 29" off the floor to optimize underneath storage. For instance some taller customers could not accommodate that design without hitting their heads on the upper cabinets when flopping down on the bed. Some have joined the back and pillow operation to join instead of having a separate fixed spacer mattress. One customer had one side with an articulated bed and the other side a custom Lazy-Boy type chair that you could sit with feet on the floor and sleep in. To this day other converters to my knowledge have not created beds to this sophistication other than manually propping up the backs.

This was spurred on because one thing Class Bs lacked was comforts of home where you could sit with total back and neck support. It wore on me on long trips. Every bed, seat or sofa was designed without neck support. They usually had low bolster pads for infilling for beds that presented awkward comfort and I previously had in my Class Bs both the bi-fold with ottomans and tri-fold sofa/beds. Neither satisfied.
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Personally I would not want Davydd's style of bed. Not only does that kind of apparatus remind me of my dentist's chair, some of my best van memories are with other people, family and friends, gathered on our couches and having a conflab over one earth-shaking topic or another. For that scenario to occur, the couches have to act like actual couches, facing each other and with back rests for people to slouch on.

It's very possible that my opinions will evolve as I get older and various parts of my body hurt more on a regular basis. The pains of age could inspire me to have a change of heart in that regard.
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Are those Atwood couches electric?
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We have a totally different setup.

Electrically operated and controlled by an iPhone or Android. Infinite positioning from bed to infinite gravity lounge comfort. When I proposed this design in April, 2014 there wasn't a manufactured bed made in the USA that could satisfy the perimeters of my design clearance wise. There were a couple of eastern Europe companies but they would not or could not sell in the USA that might have satisfied the design. Advanced RV took on the challenge anyway but it was not until Legget and Platt came out with a new model bed in July, 2014 that didn't have a bulky box spring base that it became feasible. Even so the base frame had to be rebuilt to size and custom mattress sections had to be made. The operation of separately controlled foot, back and pillow was maintained. It is basically a hospital bed or increasingly luxury home bed. The bonus that I didn't design or request was the beds vibrate by default.

Advanced RV has since marketed this design with custom improvements for each customer. My beds are 29" off the floor to optimize underneath storage. For instance some taller customers could not accommodate that design without hitting their heads on the upper cabinets when flopping down on the bed. Some have joined the back and pillow operation to join instead of having a separate fixed spacer mattress. One customer had one side with an articulated bed and the other side a custom Lazy-Boy type chair that you could sit with feet on the floor and sleep in. To this day other converters to my knowledge have not created beds to this sophistication other than manually propping up the backs.

This was spurred on because one thing Class Bs lacked was comforts of home where you could sit with total back and neck support. It wore on me on long trips. Every bed, seat or sofa was designed without neck support. They usually had low bolster pads for infilling for beds that presented awkward comfort and I previously had in my Class Bs both the bi-fold with ottomans and tri-fold sofa/beds. Neither satisfied.
At 29” high bed how do you manage sitting. My sofa bed is 22.5” which was the highest we were willing to accommodate for storage and still sit at the table reasonably comfortably.
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At 29” high bed how do you manage sitting. My sofa bed is 22.5” which was the highest we were willing to accommodate for storage and still sit at the table reasonably comfortably.
We don't sit. We lounge as you would in a zero-gravity lounger or Lazy-boy chair. I think of our Class B interior as akin to a master bedroom in a house. The 29" height is identical to our home bed which I find comfortable to get in and out of, and the maximum height so we can flop down in the bed without fear of bumping our heads on the overhead cabinets. It is totally private space as we do not entertain inside. The sitting is done with the two turned around cab seats. There is just the two of us. We've gone through the phase with back couches with two previous vans. As I mentioned they were uncomfortable to sit in mainly because they don't support your neck and head as most of our home furniture does.
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