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Old 06-23-2015, 03:08 AM   #1
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From an announcement on their FB group today:

It's here.....Roadtrek is pleased to announce our newest Technology to allow you to become Energy independent in your vehicle. You can travel without plugging in. You can run everything. You can automatically charge using your solar, and your engine generator using VoltTrek, our latest designed automatic Engine starter, while you are out hiking, dining or sleeping. Just push the switch and the engine will start when your power modules hit 11.2 volts. Your EcoTrek Power Module will hold your power, and your VoltTrek will top it off when needed due to heavy usage. So your pup or your cat will be protected. No key in the ignition. It's in your pocket and your unit is grounded without it.
You can buy your Roadtrek with 200 Amp hours of Lithium Ion Power, or 400, 800, and 1600.
You can buy units with mass solar systems from 200 to 650 watts depending on the size of the unit.
You can combine these into EcoTrek ETrek packages on all Mercedes and 210 Models. 200 amp hours is about seventy lbs, and Our EcoTrek technology allows you to use 90% of available power before you have voltage loss. You will get up to 3000 cycles from our EcoTrek modules. Basically you will never need new batteries unless you live in your unit for more than ten years full time.
Oh I forgot to mention this part. They charge incredibly fast. Our EcoTrek system allows you to charge them at 300 amps and it will automatically protect them. So imagine and remember that time you let your batteries die? And you had to wait 18 hours to charge them? How about twenty minutes to be up and running. really. Or less.
These systems are the future of ROADTREKING and I am pleased to tell you they are available for sale as of tomorrow.
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I would imagine this is a direct response to losing #1 in the Class B Marketplace- Maybe pushed it out sooner then planned, hopefully all the kinks are worked out. It sounds exiting, if only the RT interiors could be more modern like the Travato. That kind of power system on the "EcoTrek" could allow me to sacrifice on the interior design and quality.
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Just out of curiosity, how do these "remote start with no key" systems work? Do they put a key chip near the sensor or is there some OEM-sanctioned way to do it?
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I know Ford's remote start system has its own antenna ring that goes around the ignition switch, and is programmed into the computer just like any other key.

As for the EcoTrek system, it seems to have some merit, especially with it doing just what I was doing with a generator controller -- start a generator (or in the EcoTrek's case, fire up the engine) when the batteries get low. For people in northern climates, this will be handy.

I just wonder how much retrofitting it would take. You can't just drop 12 volt lead acid batteries and shove in a bank of lithium batteries unless you want "boom" to happen.

As for me, I'm still going to stick with a generator, but it makes me wonder about adding an autostart mechanism for the engine in case of generator failure. Of course, I don't really need data center grade, n+1 redundant power systems in a van, but it is nice to have that as an option.
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I would imagine this is a direct response to losing #1 in the Class B Marketplace- Maybe pushed it out sooner then planned, hopefully all the kinks are worked out. It sounds exiting, if only the RT interiors could be more modern like the Travato. That kind of power system on the "EcoTrek" could allow me to sacrifice on the interior design and quality.
This is what Mike Wendland & Campskunk have been running around beta testing for the last year or so.
Very high $$$$
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Jim mentioned $1 per watt hour for the batteries as an example. If accurate, that's about 4 x AGM cost.

A 400 ah lithium battery bank at around $4,800 would be very useful in the Zion for example. I think he later included the Zion in the mix of units that can have this technology.

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Can someone please post link to FB page with this new info; I cannot find it.
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It's not on Roadtrek's page yet. It's on Roadtreking - https://www.facebook.com/groups/road...7258052433179/
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Found it. A lot of dead links out there, if you use Google.

From JH on $:

"Let's say EcoTrek 200 is 2.56 kW hrs. And it's 2490 bucks MSRP. Less than a dollar a Watt MSRP. (Note my excessive use of that term) A typical AGM battery has 350- 500 cycles and this one has 3000 cycles. This one allows you to use 90 percent of available power. This one will run your unit all day. This one, depending on your unit, can be added to existing systems. Would it be possible to do this at the dealer near you? Yes. If your unit can be adapted. Let's be practical here folks. I can't sit here and answer dozens of questions on this as every unit will be different. A dealer could install this in two hours labour. So is it worth it? Me, I think so. So think about it. It's not a battery. It's a integrated system that allows you to use it in all climates. It is tested rigorously. It's safe. It's going to be the last power system you buy.. And you can likely throw away that 30 amp cable."

JH comment on "MSRP" - does it seem like actual pricing may be less??

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"The Zion is already so far in front of any competition I can't imagine how it would be a second choice. However. Up to EcoTrek 400 is an option choice as of tommorow."

One word of caution from JH re: everyone calling dealers in am re: new or retrofit:

"No, please don't call the dealer in the am. Give them a chance to read my stuff. Call the next day. Otherwise it's just chaos."


Yes, exciting times in Class B. Will be interesting to see how competitors respond. MLTS22 - thanks for picking up on this.
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Competitors will probably just wait and see if there's much buying interest. There will be discussion interest but will it translate into sales?

Expensive Class B's getting more expensive might just mean fewer buyers.

It is fun and exciting to read about though.
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