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Old 04-29-2009, 03:04 AM   #1
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Default STOP!!!! THIEF!!!! RV Alarm Systems

I did several forum searches and could only find one person mention a Black Widow
alarm system and I can only assume it's in addition to whatever the van
manufacturer installed - is this a concern for anyone besides me?
The last thing anyone wants is to make camp and leave your rig for a while,
taking a walk, hitting the beach, riding your bikes, and upon return,
find that you've been robbed, and they broke something to get inside.
So, do you have any sort of alarm system to let you know when/if you're being robbed?
Do you know if there are any RV specific alarms out there?
Ever considered it? We were thinking if we were somewhere near a beach say,
but we had to leave the van in the c/g to go there it would be an easy target.
In camp, who really knows who should be entering your van if you're not nearby.
I wonder if there's a noisy or silent alarm system with a transmitter and a
fob/pager you can carry with you?
We're trusting about some stuff, but not when everything of value has to be
left unguarded in your van at your campsite.
Some people have safes installed, but I think they're more of an incentive to
try harder to steal what ever might be in it.

Any ideas/comments/suggestions anyone?
Have you already purchased an OEM alarm system for your van?
If so, has it ever been tested and did it do the job?

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Old 04-29-2009, 10:27 PM   #2
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Hi Mike,
The only ones I have seen are the typical traveller's alarms for use in motels and hotel rooms with a motion detector to activate them. They seem to have about a 100 decibel alarm which is battery powered. Costs run from the $30 -50 area.

One of those would be OK if you could also make it blow your vehicle horn too. It should not be too difficult to take the activation signal to close a relay in the horn circuit.

Surely those motor mansions must have a built-in system.

Interesting!
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Old 05-01-2009, 03:00 AM   #3
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Hi Deryck,
I''d actually seen a portable/standalone I/R motion detecting alarm at a few home reno stores around town.
I was thinking the shrill screech might be enough to scare off any would be thieves, but then they've already
broken something to get far enough to set one off, so I don't know how useful that would be.
I recall a friend had a sports car with a proximity detector that verbally warned you that "you are too close
to the vehicle, please step back" or some such warning 3 times, before it would start howling in multiple
alarm patterns. Maybe that's the sort of thing I'd be interested in but I'd imagine it would be $$$$$$.
I guess the object of the game is deter thieves before they break the window or lock which may cost
more to fix than the objects taken. We don't normally leave anything valuable inside when we leave it,
even for a pit stop or food.
I guess most folks aren't too concerned about it, or figure that's what insurance is for?

re: Motor mansions - I hope they come with an armed security guard, for that kind of money.

If I come up with anything interesting, I'll post it up.

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Old 06-04-2009, 02:21 PM   #4
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I have a Viper 5701 with remote start on a 2009 2500 conversion it works up to a half mile. will page you if someone even bangs on your vehical with there hand.Have had no problems with the alarm or remote start
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Did you install it yourself? What sort of price would I be looking at?
What part of the continent are you in? I'm in Ontario, Canada.
Would there be some place near me that might have the system you mention?
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My van is a 2009 sptinter Diesel it was installed in Elkart In. it cost me $550.00 compleate with the auto start and one 2 way remote and one 1 way remote The 2 way remote will page you if someone trys to breake in.
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Thanks for the info. We may be in that neck of the woods before year's end, and
might have to have a look into them. I like the proximity or contact reaction, and the
remote pager sounds like what I'm looking for.
When it pages you after someone/something hits or makes contact with your van,
does it page you silently first, then set off the audible alarm if there's an intrusion?
Does contact anywhere on the surface initiate a page to the remote?
How much of a touch triggers the system? What's the contact sensitivity like?
Would a bird landing on it, or a tree branch brushing against it set it off?

Again, thanks for the info.
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A DIY alarm system requiring only two wires to hookup. Does this seem too simple to be true? And too cheap to be worth anything?

http://paylessall.com/cart/brand-new...tem-p-757.html


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I'd say "yes" and "probably".
The install is probably a lot more complicated to be diy possible.
It does seem a bit inexpensive to be able to do what it says.
RSRV said he/she paid $550 for an installed system in a Sprinter, and I'd imagined
that to be about what I'd expect to pay for a good system with remote options.
I may have a look round Elkhart later this year when we're on our way out west.
I'm also planning to visit Jensen/ASA while I'm there to see what they've got in the way of 12V LCD TVs.
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I also posted this mini-saga in the "Security" thread, that another forum member posted
more recently. It was in response to a question about security and auto-alarms, and resulted
from his need for some sort of noisy alarm system, with remote notification of a break in.
I had a NuStart NUAS 8000 installed today in my van. It satisfies both of his requirements.
It went a s follows......

Ok, I lied. So shoot me!
I just got the NuStart NUAS 8000 remote starter and alarm system today.
I went with it because I spotted it on sale at Best Buy (it's their other major alarm/starter company).
Got it installed, along with an extra (required to work the door locks with the factory system) module,
and all labour, for just under $500 including taxes. Not all vehicles need the extra door lock module.
The alarm by itself, including installation was on for $299.99 + tax.

The Viper 5901 would have also required the door lock module ($89 + $49 extra to install),
so it would have come in closer to $750 installed.
Both starter/alarms do about the same thing, according to my extensive, but unscientific research,
so it came down to price.

The NuStart (which is actually a Compustar rebranded) uses the existing factory on board computer
to sense and watch the doors, and has a "bump" sensor which is user adjustable to the point where
it'll trigger when the wind blows, or you can disable it for sleeping, and just leave the doors armed.
It comes with one of those funky sirens that does impressions of any number of emergency vehicles.
It has (most importantly) Valet mode which keeps the unsuspecting service man from starting the
engine, or triggering the alarm while doing whatever other vehicle maintenance might be required
from time to time. It also has several shutdowns which disables only the engine start function,
including a hidden under hood switch, so your mechanic doesn't fire up the engine, while up to his elbows.
It comes with one 2 way LCD remote, and one 1 way "dumb" manual remote. The 2 way has a small screen
with numerous status indicators in text and symbols to tell you what's happening with your RV, when
you're not in it. If something happens while you're elsewhere, the LCD remote starts chiming.
The display shows the type of event by symbols that indicate a "contact" problem, or a door opened.
They both have a published range of 5,000 feet, under optimal conditions. I'll let you know
about that after a few weeks. It's an FM send/receive, so it should probably be pretty decent. If it
works up to 2500 feet, I'd be satisfied.

The installation took 2 installers the better part of 6 hours to complete, including several support
calls to the manufacturer to resolve various vehicle specific issues.
I think it has to be a professional installation, as they had the van plugged in to an external computer
to get the software in the NUAS 8000 brain to talk to and work with the Chev on board brain.
The good news is it seems to be working as designed.
I left the box with the serial information at Best Buy (I was tired and in a hurry to get home, after
all day at the mall) and still have to get the installer to show me a couple of things, but the basics
are described pretty well in the manual. Just a bit of reading tonight, and a return trip to Best Buy
tomorrow.

So, so far, so good. If there are any other significant events worth noting, I'll update this thread.
I hope this helps anyone considering adding a non-factory starter/alarm system.
Any other questions, please ask here, or PM me.
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