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Old 02-02-2015, 04:50 AM   #1
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I got a look at a super tall Sprinter with the fiberglass roof and structural ribs. Here is a view next to a regular tall Sprinter.



Here I am reaching for the ceiling making it about 7 feet high. The sliding door is the same and the bulkhead at the cab gives you a clue as to how much taller.

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Old 02-02-2015, 09:07 AM   #2
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This new roof is a blessing literally from above for us tall folks! I have a few questions, however.

1. Since it's fiberglass, I assume that it can't support the weight of a rooftop air conditioner. How is ARV going to handle the AC?

2. Can the new roof support the weight of solar panels? Without rooftop AC, theoretically, more solar panels could be added if the roof would support the weight.

3. I also wonder how it will handle in crosswinds. Mercedes currently offers what they call "crosswind assist" on Sprinters with two rear wheels. Any word on them possibly offering it on the ones with four rear wheels with this new taller roof?
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:47 AM   #3
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SiennaGuy: I don't know how ARV will handle the Air Conditioning. However, for the cross-wind issue, ARV already offers the VB Air suspension option.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:03 PM   #4
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ARV has ideas but no definite plans yet. The extra height opens up a lot of possibilities. A clean roof of solar would be one but now that I have 420 watts of solar on mine, coupled with 800ah lithium batteries and my normal travel habits, it might be a tad bit of overkill for me.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:11 PM   #5
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One possible plan is that ARV develops a truss system that supports the weight. Then run ducted air instead of the hang down air distribution box. Use spray foam to encapsulate the ducts and provide better insulation.

The result would be a higher ceiling height for tall customers. I would think customers who need air conditioning a large part of the year and want to be able to hear the TV when the A/C is running would be interested. Plus the spray foam will make the Sprinter much cooler in hot weather.

Airstream trailers went to a ducted air this year and existing customers are trading in just to get the quiet A/C. ARV got rid of the generator noise. Now it may be time to quiet the A/C. I have heard that the Coleman MACH 8 that Davydd has is quieter inside than the Dometic Penguin so the noise issue may be resolved somewhat.

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Old 02-02-2015, 09:21 PM   #6
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How many thousands of fiberglass roofed vans have ACs on them? I don't see a problem. I don't like the idea of a taller B because it limits where you can travel which is the main reason to have a B but to each his own.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:26 PM   #7
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This makes things interesting, but I'd like to know three things:

1: Does this destroy the coach's safety in a rollover?
2: Is it possible to still use overhead cabinets attached to the sides and walls?
3: Does the fiberglass affect the leak resistance in any way?

I'd love an extra high coach, especially with a coach builder who can use the space gained for more storage. With a Danhard A/C unit, it would still be able to go through drive-throughs.
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There's some info and photos from 2007 about the mega high roof: http://www.classbforum.com/phpBB2/vi....php?f=9&t=334

I think it has been around for a while now so any problems would have been sorted out. I don't know if this is still current:

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The new mega-roof is made of fiberglass-reinforced plastic and may be painted in any body color. Available with either fixed or opening skylights of single-layer safety glass, an optional transparent plastic skylight is also available. Supplied by Westfalia Van Conversion, a DaimlerChrysler subsidiary, the mega-roof is produced in Germany.
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I believe the roof sides means the part that is added by the fiberglass. The sides haven't changed so the cabinets will be fine.

An Airstream roof is covered by aluminum panels attached by rivets to the roof ribs. One must walk on the rivets unless one likes dimples in the roof. In contrast I would think that closed cell foam sprayed in the roof cavity along with extra truss support would result in a very strong roof allowing for anything to be mounted.

It is possible that the awning might present the biggest problem. Roof rails are probably not available from the factory. If one beefs up the roof side an awning rail from say Carefree would work. Then the awning would not stick up above the roof like it does on a metal roof Sprinter. This is only a consideration if one wants an awning. But Southern state owners would want an awning and the ducted A/C along with a fully insulated roof.

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I would think that the high roof would be a natural for other than a roof air conditioner. As has been mentioned, it will get too high, and you have added a lot of volume to the inside, so you should be able to spare a little for a split system or a Coolcat type wall/floor system.

If this is a MB supplied item, I would not worry about safety, as the Germans tend to overdo rather than underdo that kind of stuff.

If the tall roof is on a dually 3500, they still will have the option of adding the crosswind assist that they use on the single wheel units, so I don't think that will turn out to be a big deal.

Fiberglass is more sound deadening and less heat transmitting than steel, so that should be a plus.

If done right, tall roof Sprinter could be just what the tall folks need and want, without going to a C. We have had a lot of folks look at our Chevy Roadtrek and say they liked it, but were just were too tall for it, so the market would be there, especially as the younger, taller, generations get to wanting a B.
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