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Old 03-02-2018, 02:57 PM   #1
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:51 PM   #3
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What do you want to discuss?

Russo didn't say much about the 4x4 except you sit higher.

Many manufacturer's are now providing the 4x4 option. Winnebago has gone all in with the ERA and the short body Revel. Roadtrek has built them.

Advanced RV ordered the first 4x4's RB and EB when they first became available because of customer desires. They are now converting the short body Sprinters because of customer desires.

The specialist companies like Sportsmobile and Outside Van kind of depend on them for the market they appeal to or are going after.

Right now it appears to be a Sprinter market and only an after market add (Ford Transit). The Promaster is not convertible if they only market front wheel drive.
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I can tell you the one time I needed 4x4 and didn't have it. One spring we went to Sequoia NP and wanted to see the General Grant only the road had snow on it from the Museum on. We slipped and slid too much to attempt it. Another reason I would want it was to go onto sand beaches more. They are always chancey adventures in my mind. I have no desire to go down roads that would require 4x4 because the contents of a B would not withstand that kind of driving much, IMO.

The other major reason is clearance. the 3-1/2 to 4 inches is a plus.
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Davydd,

A question, do you think it would have helped to have chains or cables on your Sequoia trip? I've seen a blog post that claimed fitted cables for the outer rear tires helped ok a winter ski trip, and here in Co they can assert snow traction requirements based on the weather, which means it is possible to need them legally even in June.

I'm with you on the extra ground clearance, even just a few inches would be nice sometimes, even in town.
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A question, do you think it would have helped to have chains or cables on your Sequoia trip? I've seen a blog post that claimed fitted cables for the outer rear tires helped ok a winter ski trip, and here in Co they can assert snow traction requirements based on the weather, which means it is possible to need them legally even in June.

I'm with you on the extra ground clearance, even just a few inches would be nice sometimes, even in town.
Yes. That was an option and you could rent them at the base of the mountain out of the park but I was already in the park for some miles and was not going back just to go a few miles more. They kept the road plowed to the museum but no further. We didn't know that going in. It was a sunny day in the 50s.
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Iím not converting mine to 4x4. But I did decide to give it a 3Ē lift & rear locker (coming very soon). Plus if I get stuck Iíll have a winch and Maxtrax to get me out of trouble.

I donít think it would survive actual off-roading so thereís no point doing a full conversion. But Iím hoping it will do well in rough gravel roads, beach camping and very mild off road situations.


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I saw the Winnebago Revel recently and all I can say is that this thing is huge. I mean tall and wide for a offroad vehicle. Not sure If I would pay that price just to have 4x4 RV and then panic every time the roof and sides hit the trees and branches. However on the sand and open trails I see the advantage but I would not take this were a jeep goes by no means. If you got unlimited cash or own a body shop then more power to yeah. Would I buy one NO. As I am more keen to an overland vehicle that would be highly modified for my needs and possible still come out cheaper.
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Default Since were on the subject of RV ability I would like some advice.

My RV is on the dodge promaster platform as how does that fwd perform in sand, snow etc if anyone has one that can answer. Thanks
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Regarding snow, my opinion will be subjective, and affected by snow, terrain, and tire differences. My take driving a rental Promaster based Winnebago Trend in light snow in the Black Hills last fall vs more snow in PA with a Sprinter is they are similar with the edge going to the Sprinter. The fwd disadvantage showed on uphills with turns, like pulling out of the campground parking lot and felt a little squirt on windy uphills. Either were maybe similar to our fwd Toyota Sienna with decent tires, vastly better than our old Suburban or Expedition in rwd modes, and notably worse than our awd cars (the Suburban in 4hi bests them all by a good margin).

I haven't read up on it, is the Sprinter 4x4 full time awd, or is it a real 4hi 4wd?
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