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Old 12-27-2018, 08:00 PM   #21
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That's interesting as GM dropped the 1500 vans several years ago.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/g...ans-83947.html

GMC Savana and Chevrolet Express 1500 Vans Quietly Dropped for 2015

I didn't realize Roadtrek even used the 1500 GM vans. I thought they were all at least 2500 or 3500 models. From what I can find in the below linked Roadtrek 170 Versatile brochure it's made on a 2500 van.

https://www.roadtrek.com/wp-content/...re-08-2016.pdf

Also discovered that GM has been using Navistar to build some versions of their vans for the last few years so they can build more pickup trucks.

https://www.autonews.com/article/201...idsize-pickups

I would not be surprised to see GM drop the vans altogether so they can make more money on pickup trucks. They already announced dropping the small vans earlier this year. GM appears to be in down-size mode to survive.

https://www.autonews.com/article/201...ress-small-van
Roadtrek has never used the 1500 Chevy. I heard one of the reasons RT is considering backing off on the 210 Popular (Chevy Chassis) is not enough interest anymore, those that are ordering are few & far between and they won't produce until they get a certain amount of orders. Sad really, we love our RT 210P, just took it out today to give it a good run.
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Old 12-29-2018, 07:54 PM   #22
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It may just be that Chevy van no longer gives the space and agility that modern Euro Style vans do. I recently migrated from the old Ram B3500 (1971-2003) chassis Class B to a Ram 2500 Promaster 3.6 V6. More power, more space, more headroom, much tighter turning circle, better visibility, and 22+mpg. Very steady in crosswinds and transport traffic. The build is less expensive so we get more for the money.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:44 PM   #23
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It may just be that Chevy van no longer gives the space and agility that modern Euro Style vans do. I recently migrated from the old Ram B3500 (1971-2003) chassis Class B to a Ram 2500 Promaster 3.6 V6. More power, more space, more headroom, much tighter turning circle, better visibility, and 22+mpg. Very steady in crosswinds and transport traffic. The build is less expensive so we get more for the money.
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Even having never driven a Promaster, I can believe it is a significant upgrade from the old Dodge van. However, having driven the old Dodge classs "b" van and a "modern" Chevy class "b", I can say there is a significant difference between the two. The Chevy is smoother riding, tracks better (little wind effect), is more powerful, quieter, and more fuel efficient. The turning circle is still wide, though.
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:48 PM   #24
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It may just be that Chevy van no longer gives the space and agility that modern Euro Style vans do. I recently migrated from the old Ram B3500 (1971-2003) chassis Class B to a Ram 2500 Promaster 3.6 V6. More power, more space, more headroom, much tighter turning circle, better visibility, and 22+mpg. Very steady in crosswinds and transport traffic. The build is less expensive so we get more for the money.
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Ok. I get that you’re not a fan of the Chevy...

But, just to fact-check you...

More POWER for the Promaster??? Try 342 HP-373 ft-lbs Torque for the Chevy vs 280 HP-260 ft-lbs Torque for the Promaster.

Currently, the Promaster has a Tow Rating of up to 5100 lbs vs the Chevy at up to 10,000 lbs.

I belong to several RV Groups. NO ONE is claiming 22+ miles per gallon for their Promaster Van. Maybe for the 1500 Promaster, but let’s compare Apples to Apples.

Care to EDIT your comments?

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Old 12-30-2018, 12:58 AM   #25
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Ok. I get that you’re not a fan of the Chevy...

But, just to fact-check you...

More POWER for the Promaster??? Try 342 HP-373 ft-lbs Torque for the Chevy vs 280 HP-260 ft-lbs Torque for the Promaster.

Currently, the Promaster has a Tow Rating of up to 5100 lbs vs the Chevy at up to 10,000 lbs.

I belong to several RV Groups. NO ONE is claiming 22+ miles per gallon for their Promaster Van. Maybe for the 1500 Promaster, but let’s compare Apples to Apples.

Care to EDIT your comments?

Have a nice day .
No I do not care to edit. Most Class B people do not need to tow large trailers and it was not the topic anyways. 22miles per gallon imperial (I live in Canada) is about 17-18 US and quite achievable. Very good friends of ours have a 2008 RT on the Chev chassis and it is nice vehicle, but hasn't changed in many years. The marketplace will decide in the end.
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Old 12-30-2018, 05:52 AM   #26
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I got only 15 mpg in my trip to AZ in my new SRT, but the winds were mostly contrary. But I love the way it drives. My two Chevy rigs also behaved well on the road, but I prefer the Promaster. The tow-haul in the mountains was totally impressive.


I don't even want to talk about how badly my Ford based GWV was to drive. LOL
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Old 12-30-2018, 08:56 PM   #27
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I'm enjoying the discussion here, if only while we're waiting for news on the Transit-based Roadtrek Haven.

You'd think RT would post some Haven prototype pics and floorplans, now that the word is out.
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Old 12-30-2018, 09:55 PM   #28
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I'm enjoying the discussion here, if only while we're waiting for news on the Transit-based Roadtrek Haven.

You'd think RT would post some Haven prototype pics and floorplans, now that the word is out.
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Still no news? I've searched the interwebs… surprised I haven't seen a pic of the Haven. I think I will make a point of going to the Nor Cal RV show next week in Pleasanton. If she's there I will take some pics and offer up an assuredly mediocre review.
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Still no news? I've searched the interwebs… surprised I haven't seen a pic of the Haven. I think I will make a point of going to the Nor Cal RV show next week in Pleasanton. If she's there I will take some pics and offer up an assuredly mediocre review.
Please post pics if you see this elusive unicorn. It's not often a totally new model from a major player like Roadtrek gets released. Until this thread, I was even hearing rumors of the demise of the Transit as a basis for class "b's". Glad to hear the rumors aren't true.
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